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Old 11-05-2016, 07:34 AM   #30
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Default Re: Pyramid #3/72: Alternate Dungeons

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Edit: The other thing I'm wondering is that the template has Dropping as an optional skill; how does this interact with No Fine Manipulators? Are they assumed to have sufficient grasping ability to pick up boulders and small opponents to drop, but nothing much smaller than that?
I think it's safe to assume they can pick up things using the "squirrel holds a nut between its toes" method. Dogs[1] and cats can, although they can't manipulate things this way.

Like squirrels, they'd need the use of both forelimbs and their teeth/tongue/belly just to turn something around while held in their forepaws; it also would take quite some time rather than the free action a human uses, and if it's smaller than the dragons head, it probably requires a DX check or they waste a bunch of extra time (on a critical failure, they drop it).

[1] We adopted a toy poodle who was a bit of a rescue. She came with the "skin" of an emptied stuffed animal, her only toy. On the first day in our house, my mother and I were sitting at the kitchen table when we saw her little black nose peeking over the top - she was standing on her toes. We ignored her, and the stuffie "skin" started flagging vigorously up and down over the top of the table.
She had it pinned between her forepaws and was standing up on her tippie tip toes to wave the stuffie at us. For some dog-logic reason.
So I figure if a dog with a brain roughly the size of two big cashews can figure that out, a dragon can.
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