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Old 06-03-2016, 12:09 AM   #4
thulben
 
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Default Re: [Sorcery] Super Mount Ally Question

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Originally Posted by VariousRen View Post
…a mount that gives HUGE amounts of move, or flight, insubstantial, Force field DR, and so on. Should the rider have to buy those abilities as well with the granted by ally limitation?
Probably not. As another in this thread has stated, the Granted by familiar limitation means that the powers are conferred to you once you've made the accessibility roll for the Ally. So, if the mount merely being present confers those abilities to you, then yes, you'd take all of the relevant Abilities with the Granted by familiar limitation. However, if it's the familiar itself that has those abilities, then that just increases the point value of the Ally (and probably the point cost to you to have it as an Ally).

It gets a bit tricky if you get Insubstantial or DR as a function of riding on the mount. insubstantial specifically has the Can Carry Objects enhancement. Which, for the mount, you would be the object! So you'd just pay extra for the enhancement depending on how much extra weight as a function of its encumbrance level you'd expect to turn Insubstantial. Similarly, Damage Resistance has the Force Field enhancement that extends the DR to (among other things) "anything you are carrying". You could interpret that (again) as you being something the mount is carrying.
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