Waterproof surface: a perk?

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Bruno

Is that the one that oxidizes steel, glass, sand, and test engineers? Barely sits in aluminum containers because it forms some sort of aluminum fluorine oxygen compound but good help you if you scratch or dent it?

Along those lines, yes, though not exactly that. As far as I can tell it's not aluminum you want, but the only safe containment is certain metals that form a fluorinated surface layer. And if that layer is damaged the container may burn through anyway. Also on the list of things it can combust: asbestos.

[Humabout]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

I'm pretty sure it includes Filter Lungs protection against respiratory agents as well.

Negative. It only seals you (makes you waterproof and air-tight). If you lack Doesn't Breathe, your breathing apparatus won't suffer from contact agents, but respiratory agents are still a go.

Originally Posted by B108

Respiratory Agent
+50%
Your attack must be inhaled to have any effect, but it ignores all DR. Only Doesn't Breathe and Filter Lungs protect completely...

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Um, no. Most inanimate objects will burn and corrode on contact with that.

Oops. My bad.


Though now I want my Wizard to be able to create this with her Create Acid spell...

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Humabout

Negative. It only seals you (makes you waterproof and air-tight). If you lack Doesn't Breathe, your breathing apparatus won't suffer from contact agents, but respiratory agents are still a go.

Okay.

Can't think of anything it could do that doesn't fall under the description 'Immune to Contact Agents' then.

EDIT: It makes a specific point of keeping water and such out of your internal parts, but as far as I can tell being vulnerable to that in the first place would be a Disadvantage...

[johndallman]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

Though now I want my Wizard to be able to create this with her Create Acid spell...

No, you don't. The by-products of its reactions with anything containing hydrogen are themselves deadly poisons (hydrofluoric and hydrochloric acids). It wasn't discovered until 1930, so will be unknown in most fantasy settings (taking fluorine compounds apart to make it is hard).

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by johndallman

No, you don't.

What? Of course I do! Some enemies need to go away forever!

The by-products of its reactions with anything containing hydrogen are themselves deadly poisons (hydrofluoric and hydrochloric acids).

That's what Purify Air and Purify Water and Resist Acid is for... though with strength of this Acid, those spells are probably at a hefty penalty.

It wasn't discovered until 1930, so will be unknown in most fantasy settings (taking fluorine compounds apart to make it is hard).

And there's the rub. Though with Alchemy and Essential Acid... I should be able to whip something up...

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Apologies for the extreme digression!
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[Anthony]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

And there's the rub. Though with Alchemy and Essential Acid... I should be able to whip something up...

Just take the normal -15 penalty for TL 3 to TL 6. Of course, HF isn't actually all that strong of an acid; it's more of an extremely strong oxidizing agent with a side effect of being chemically toxic.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Anthony

Just take the normal -15 penalty for TL 3 to TL 6. Of course, HF isn't actually all that strong of an acid; it's more of an extremely strong oxidizing agent with a side effect of being chemically toxic.

And it incidentally makes boiling acid vapor upon reacting with anything with hydrogen in it, just to add spice. So, everything wet for starters, including the aforementioned test engineers.
You get it on you, and not only does it set you on fire, but it also then goes happily to your skeleton and chews it up. Which suggests that it's got a burning attack with multiple levels of that cosmic-incendiary combo that Ghostdancer came up with, along with tox damage and corrosion. That's one big bad nasty mess of linked attacks.

Side track, but an interesting/entertaining one.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by johndallman

The by-products of its reactions with anything containing hydrogen are themselves deadly poisons (hydrofluoric and hydrochloric acids).

HF is a deadly poison (as well as a nasty corrosive), but HCl isn't. HCl is a strong acid and can certainly burn you at high enough concentrations, but is very innocuous otherwise.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

And there's the rub. Though with Alchemy and Essential Acid... I should be able to whip something up...

Had a quick convo with the GM... best I can do with Essential Acid is 3d-3.

So no chlorine trifluoride for me. :(