[MA] Throw Wrestling, Belt/Jacket Wrestling Styles

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Originally Posted by DouglasCole

Let me check . . .

We decided on Sumo Wrestling Sport as primary skill for belt wrestling, with Force Posture Change (formerly Takedown) and Sweep as Techniques. If you're doing Jacket Wrestling, use Wrestling Sport instead. Technical Grappling introduces the "pickup," which is exactly that - picking your foe up in combat, and notes that's common.

So, the future-suggested solution here is not Judo Throw at all.

If you must have it, I'd use Technique Adaptation for Judo Throw. If you check the technique design system in Martial Arts, you can add Sweep to Wrestling, but at -4 instead of -3 as a "new basic attack." That's canonical, and used in the above style (and several others) in TG.

I got some issue with that, but its mainly based on my fan-knowledge of Sumo and some (though quite lacking) experience with stand-up grappling. Some of the Sumo kimarite (eg. "named" winning moves) include hip throw, armlock throw (yes, they DO know armlocks), belt throw (overarm or underarm), beltless arm throw (hip throw variant using underhooked arm as a lever), and other throws as well (though the others are quite in tune with Force Posture Change or Sweep).
Not much experience with traditional belt-wrestling styles, but from what I pick up in videos compared with my personal grappling knowledge (if limited knowledge and little experience), I would say a plenty of moves would be similar or identical to Sumo and then it makes a lot of sense to introduce some way of transfering this throwing knowledge (which actually is quite deep in Sumo as a majority of rrikishi use throws in bouts sometimes and are taught the proper how-to without need to cross train; and it should be mentioned as well that even Jigoro Kano himself studied Sumo or at least knew their techniques, Morihei Ueshiba as well reportedly)

But then again, I got some issue with entire description of Sumo style in MA, to be addressed in solo thread when I complete playtesting of my house-written style for Sumo.