Martial Arts: Polearm/Quarterstaff/Weapon Adaptation

Gollum · 01-28-2016, 11:09 AM

This debate is really interesting. I don't know Martial Arts rules enough to discuss about each precise point; all what I can say is what I have already said above. But the counter-arguments are very good too: a pole arm is unbalanced, and it should make a difference ...

Now, what about reality? Let's see kobudo ...

http://www.oshukai.fr/kobudo-okinawa...obudo-dokinawa
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawan_kobud%C5%8D

In kobudo, we learn the bo (quarter staff). It is well simulated in GURPS rules with its +2 to parry, because of his length (parrying surface), but also because of its incredible parry techniques: you can parry gedan (down) while attacking jodan (up) at the same time. The bo can also be used like a spear (several thrusting attack techniques). It is very effective, especially to the foot, the knee or the throat. And the Thrust line of the weapon does the job very well ...

We also learn the nunti bo (it is like a spear with a hook). It is almost as balanced as a bo and many techniques are similar with bo techniques. Thanks to the Weapon Adaptation Perk, it can be used with the Staff skill, or with the Hook skill (every one does agree on that, if I understood things well). Here again, GURPS do the job very well ...

Now, we also learn the eku (paddle). It is a quite heavy weapon, very close from a pole arm. My master says that if it is well sharpened and if you hit your foe strongly enough, you can behead him. Because of its weight, handling such a weapon requires a lot of training. But a lot of techniques are still very close from the bo, especially the parry techniques.

So, would the Weapon Adaptation Perk be sufficient to get the +2 to parry?

Sadly, I'm not experienced enough to answer this question. I didn't learn the eku yet. Neither the nunti bo. All what I know (a bit - only 2 years of training) is the bo (plus the sai and the tonfa, but they are very different) ... Now, when I watch my master or the black belts training with the eku, I see techniques that I also do with the bo.

I don't know if that can help to answer the question, but it is the only input I can do ...

01-28-2016, 11:09 AM	#19
Gollum Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: France	Re: Martial Arts: Polearm/Quarterstaff/Weapon Adaptation This debate is really interesting. I don't know *Martial Arts* rules enough to discuss about each precise point; all what I can say is what I have already said above. But the counter-arguments are very good too: a pole arm is unbalanced, and it should make a difference ... Now, what about reality? Let's see kobudo ... http://www.oshukai.fr/kobudo-okinawa...obudo-dokinawa https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Okinawan_kobud%C5%8D In kobudo, we learn the bo (quarter staff). It is well simulated in GURPS rules with its +2 to parry, because of his length (parrying surface), but also because of its incredible parry techniques: you can parry gedan (down) while attacking jodan (up) at the same time. The bo can also be used like a spear (several thrusting attack techniques). It is very effective, especially to the foot, the knee or the throat. And the Thrust line of the weapon does the job very well ... We also learn the nunti bo (it is like a spear with a hook). It is almost as balanced as a bo and many techniques are similar with bo techniques. Thanks to the Weapon Adaptation Perk, it can be used with the Staff skill, or with the Hook skill (every one does agree on that, if I understood things well). Here again, GURPS do the job very well ... Now, we also learn the eku (paddle). It is a quite heavy weapon, very close from a pole arm. My master says that if it is well sharpened and if you hit your foe strongly enough, you can behead him. Because of its weight, handling such a weapon requires a lot of training. But a lot of techniques are still very close from the bo, especially the parry techniques. *So, would the Weapon Adaptation Perk be sufficient to get the +2 to parry?* Sadly, I'm not experienced enough to answer this question. I didn't learn the eku yet. Neither the nunti bo. All what I know (a bit - only 2 years of training) is the bo (plus the sai and the tonfa, but they are very different) ... Now, when I watch my master or the black belts training with the eku, I see techniques that I also do with the bo. I don't know if that can help to answer the question, but it is the only input I can do ... Last edited by Gollum; 01-28-2016 at 11:22 AM.