Mind Control Question

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by smurf

Is it in one of the power ups for rule of 17 etc

Iirc it was a perk.

The enhancement - which is what I was referencing - is "Cosmic, No Rule of 16" and is in GURPS Psionic Campaigns, p. 26

[Kissamies]

I think it needs Reduced Time is in order as well. He doesn't seem to take any Concentrate maneuvers and uses his powers pretty effortlessly. There might also be Always On limitation, but I don't think it should be worth any points in this case.

[Parabola]

Originally Posted by Kissamies

I think it needs Reduced Time is in order as well. He doesn't seem to take any Concentrate maneuvers and uses his powers pretty effortlessly. There might also be Always On limitation, but I don't think it should be worth any points in this case.

True. If we were talking about a hero with the same powers, it could be Always on: social. -10% for always having to be careful of how he words everything, always having a strange pause to everything he says while he thinks about it and makes sure it isn't telling somebody to do something. But for Kilgrave, Always on really isn't a limitation even though he mentioned being careful how he words things. He kills without remorse so not very limiting for him.

[evileeyore]

Originally Posted by Parabola

He kills without remorse so not very limiting for him.

It's still limiting in how society will react to him. From a PC perspective, it's limiting.

[Mr Frost]

Originally Posted by evileeyore

It's still limiting in how society will react to him. From a PC perspective, it's limiting.

It would also eventually out Him as a "super" : sooner or later He would casually manipulate folk in an obvious manner in a location under remote surveillance were He not careful .

[Parabola]

Originally Posted by Mr Frost

It would also eventually out Him as a "super" : sooner or later He would casually manipulate folk in an obvious manner in a location under remote surveillance were He not careful .

In a way, I regret that they probably won't have him return. Main villains are pretty much one-shots in the MCU. Understandable but I'd love to see S.H.I.E.L.D. encounter him and prep a defense which should really be easy and he'd have no chance unless he had total surprise. I'd love to see if Thor or Cap or even DD could resist him.

He was presented as sort of having almost the vampire advantage. In other words, the biggest advantage of a vampire is that nobody believes they exist. Kilgrave's biggest advantage was that, in spite of alien invasions, gods and monsters, people unfathomably won't buy the existence of a mind controller.

[PK]

Originally Posted by Parabola

In a way, I regret that they probably won't have him return.

(fnorded)
Unless they're adding some unique new physical powers, you can probably leave off "probably" there. :)

I'd love to see if Thor or Cap or even DD could resist him.

Canonically, Daredevil can resist the Purple Man. Something about how his senses are wired differently from other people.

He was presented as sort of having almost the vampire advantage. In other words, the biggest advantage of a vampire is that nobody believes they exist. Kilgrave's biggest advantage was that, in spite of alien invasions, gods and monsters, people unfathomably won't buy the existence of a mind controller.

In game terms, that would be the GM declaring that certain powers don't exist (at least including Mind Control and, according to Agents of SHIELD, Precognition), and then letting Kilgrave's player take a special 100-point Unusual Background (Ha-ha, I'm the Exception to the Rules!).

[Parabola]

Originally Posted by PK

(fnorded)
Unless they're adding some unique new physical powers, you can probably leave off "probably" there. :)

Canonically, Daredevil can resist the Purple Man. Something about how his senses are wired differently from other people.

In game terms, that would be the GM declaring that certain powers don't exist (at least including Mind Control and, according to Agents of SHIELD, Precognition), and then letting Kilgrave's player take a special 100-point Unusual Background (Ha-ha, I'm the Exception to the Rules!).

I don't think they'll ever have him return. It would be repetitive to do it in the Netflix stuff and the Netflix stuff is sooooo dark, grim and gritty that I doubt they'll ever bring any of it into the movies or Agents of Shield.

I liked that first DD story with the Purple Man. I think I read it as a kid and just reread it. I smiled at one of the metaphors Stan Lee used. To Matt's and Foggy's secretary, something along the lines of: "You're very beautiful and I have need of a- secretary. You will accompany me and- take dictation." Perfect, almost 1960's Batman way of disguising something to be acceptable to show to 8-10 year olds.

In that first story, it was purely how strong willed DD was though it was probably retconned later to be something about how his senses work.Then again, Netflix DD and Kilgrave are different characters.