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Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Land of the Britons
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So I'm starting up a brand new DF campaign to replace the old Fantasy one, and one of my players has chosen to go a Celestial. They've commented that folk would give a Celestial character a free pass in many situations where blame is being assigned, what with them being angels (or at least descended from one) and always detecting as Good etc.
Now, whilst I'm happy to have peasantry with dirt between their ears see the nimbus and basically assume they can do no wrong - not everyone in the world is so gullible, and GURPS runs on a "you get what you pay for" policy. The Celestial template does give you a universal boost to reactions with their improved appearance, so they're likely to make better first impressions, but it lacks anything like the Honest Face perk, or a Reputation of being good (as opposed to just functioning as a Good entity when magic or the like checks that soul-variable). Even the Celestial Nimbus perk is basically just a light accessory perk in disguise. So, how far can half-angels avoid suspicion and blame when not acting good, simply because of their race? Note: Using Fast Talk to convince folk that you're only smiting evil wrong doers, and not just murdering merchants for their wares, does not count in this case, as that still requires you to make social influence rolls as usual. Although how large a bonus you get (if any) to said roll because you're a Celestial is still up for debate.
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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Absent relevant advantages, they have no special ability here. I suggest the Honest Face perk.
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Join Date: Jul 2012
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As far as their Advantages allow - I would say if someone wanted to make this an important character element, take Social Regard or Reputation. Be generous with letting the player take these things if they want to spend points in that direction, but ultimately the player decides if they want them and they will not be freebees.
Ultimately, being put a pedestal is not always a positive. People might hold celestials to unreasonably high standards and react badly when those are not met. People know celestials always detect as good - it could make people more suspicious, because you can't actually determine their moral outlook in the usual ways. |
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlotte, North Caroline, United States of America, Earth?
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Wasn't Lucifer an angel?
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Join Date: Oct 2015
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Might you hold "falling" over them like a sword of Damocles?
Tell them their celestial appearance is contingent upon their continued "good" behavior? |
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: between keyboard and chair
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Barring advantages and disadvantages to the contrary, I'd say that a known Celestial would be more able to avoid suspicion but less able to avoid blame than a full mortal would. "You're from a higher plane, so you know better."
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Berkeley, CA
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The half-celestial presented in DF3 has no specific requirement to be good, they just detect as good. Given that Celestial and Infernal have the same point cost, you could probably give them a feature whereby they can actually change templates based on their behavior (this could result in some divine gifts becoming unusable), but it's not something built into the race as written.
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formerly known as 'Kenneth Latrans'
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Wyoming, Michigan
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They have a racial Feature that they always detect as "good" when it comes to supernatural effects like weapons which will only allow the morally good to wield them and pentagrams that blast good-aligned critters with hellfire when they step on them.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Charlotte, North Caroline, United States of America, Earth?
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I would, generally speaking, have the unwashed hordes assume that as an "Angel", the character can do no wrong. But anyone with a point in relevant Theology would be able to remember how Lucifer was not only the fairest angel, but also the one closest to the Lord. Of course, that's all dependent on if your setting has a psuedo christian theology for angels.
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Join Date: May 2009
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There is a perk that lets you make an intimidate check without talking to someone, you could adapt that for Fast Talk (or what ever talky skill you feel is appropriate) and then simply discourage them from using it in other ways.
Another possibility is a sufficiently positive reputation that everyone just overlooks their actions.
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