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Old 11-24-2015, 01:53 PM   #11
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Default Re: I wonder when DF will do non-European fantasy

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Originally Posted by Mailanka View Post
What purpose does setting provide in a DF adventure?
Usually, in my experience, convincing the players that they're playing a recognisable character, with some kind of (possibly colourful) cultural background, rather than just a numeric artefact with the ability to diminish the "HP" attribute of other numeric artefacts.

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But we already have GURPS Japan and GURPS Arabia. Both of those already alter the magic system appropriately, and they have suggested templates. These are 3e templates, but it's not exactly difficult to use those to pick/adjust the existing DF templates. They both have monsters and discussions of what localities would look like. Why are these not good enough?
Because, as TBC says, they're rarely if ever oriented towards the sort of play that Dungeon Fantasy implies. The intergration and adaptation process isn't as trivial as you seem to think.

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Why does a whole book need to be made with the DF label slapped on it?
Remember that we're talking about the Dungeon Fantasy PDF line here. A "book" can easily be a 20-30 page document. Honestly, a good set of template modifications, some revised spell lists, a bunch of fun monsters, a couple of pages of GM advice on getting the flavour right, and a glossary of terms to slather on to make sessions sound right, would fill that with no trouble at all.

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Settings already sell poorly. A DF-only setting would only sell to the subset of GURPS that is interested in settings and DF.
I came to this thread thinking in the abstract, not worrying about commercial viability. But actually, given the sales numbers that I see for DF material as compared to those for some other lines, I think that a product which sold to a modest fraction of the maximum DF market would be considered fairly viable. Plus, I think it would sell to more than just people who wanted to run complete campaigns in the setting. DF characters are great wanderers; "This week, your characters go on a ship to Darker NotAfrica. I'll run you through a couple of dungeons there, you can pick up some cool throwing blades, and oh yeah, Fred wants his new character to be a Pseudo-Zulu, so be prepared to meet a big friendly guy with a short spear and a yen to travel..."

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I'm sure you could make it, but I don't see the point of making a request thread for what would amount to a labor of love.
I didn't start this thread. I'm just running with someone else's suggestion, to see how it might fly.

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I also want SJG to publish "the book that handles my campaign perfectly", but alas, SJG publishes what they think will be profitable enough to justify costs.
You forgot an essential qualifier at the end of that sentence: "...and that someone competent offers to write." Believe me, that's a bigger factor than some people seem to think.

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Why do you think I was pointing saying the Elites were Persian not the People.
Just like for a large part of Medaived England the Elites were Norman but not the People.
The ruling elite in Abbasid Baghdad were Arab. The civil service elite were largely Persian. And the Arabian Nights, being created in its extant form for the entertainment of street folks in Damascus and Cairo, positively drips with Arab chauvinism. Heck, it seems to demonstrate prejudice against folks from the "wrong" bit of North Africa.
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