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Old 11-20-2015, 07:58 PM   #1
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Default I wonder when DF will do non-European fantasy

I really like the DF series and I believe it will follow the D&D pattern. First it will stick to the standard Tolkien fantasy along with monsters from European myths and monsters. But later when D&D exhausted all they could with orcs and elves they moved on to Oriental Adventures and then they had some setting called Al Quadim in the Islamic world. So I am just curious if or maybe when the DF series will exhaust the fight against orcs and trolls and then move onto a different culture.

I know there is GURPS Ninja but that is just one book.

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Old 11-20-2015, 08:21 PM   #2
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So I am just curious if or maybe when the DF series will exhaust the fight against orcs and trolls and then move onto a different culture.
I can tell you exactly what Kromm's official answer will be: "Yes, it will, if one of our freelancers writes it."
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Old 11-21-2015, 01:20 AM   #3
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The Martial Artist already implies the usual kung-fu movie aesthetic unless you really push the template into an odd direction and a samurai is called out as an example interpretation of the Knight template.

The Wildmen come across as North American sasquatches to me.

Regular DF isn't so much "European" as it is "Olden Days cultural stew".
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Old 11-21-2015, 05:08 AM   #4
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The Martial Artist already implies the usual kung-fu movie aesthetic unless you really push the template into an odd direction and a samurai is called out as an example interpretation of the Knight template.

The Wildmen come across as North American sasquatches to me.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:42 AM   #5
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Yeah, CousinX used DF to run a high-power Japanese-themed hack / slash / loot fantasy game (all too briefly; I miss TFOXWX), and it worked no problem, and I've done a partial write-up for a Hindu Mythology theme DF setting using the same rules that I'd like to run someday. If you're asking about official publications, Rasputin has your answer, but in terms of utility the existing products are ready to go as-is. The G is for Generic. ;]

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Old 11-21-2015, 07:47 AM   #6
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I wouldn't mind seeing a Nyambe crossover license supplement...
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I could easily imagine an entirely kickass dungeon fantasy campaign using the same tropes as DF, set in ancient Greece with the serial numbers files off only a tiny bit.
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Old 11-21-2015, 11:39 AM   #8
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Other than equipment list and slightly different flavors of races and monsters, what is needed?

Remember that DF isn't particularly European itself. It's D&Dland. Any similarities between that and any historical period in Europe is coincidental.
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Other than equipment list and slightly different flavors of races and monsters, what is needed?

Remember that DF isn't particularly European itself. It's D&Dland. Any similarities between that and any historical period in Europe is coincidental.
So very seconded. I find DF to be extremely Modern in feel. It has an urban feel rather than a rural feel, pulls in monsters from all over the place, spends a good deal of time on abominable 'things man was not meant to know', by default uses a theological cosmology that draws elements from all over (Good and Evil laid over a pantheon that could be pulled from any one of a number of ancient cultures), and so forth.

If you start playing around with politics, you've left DF.
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If you start playing around with politics, you've left DF.
It's not politics. It's fashion. The tropes of pop culture outside of clearly identifiable Western sources (kung fu movies, the Arabian Nights, Bollywood mythological epics, etc.) can fit well in the DF paradigm and are evocative in their own ways. They're a kind of fun which, one may argue, has so far been inadequately explored, but they provide ample grist for the mill, so why not? I have little interest in translating specific items from history and mythology into DF terms, but the underlying flavors are ones I happen to enjoy, so I'd be happy to see more DF which partakes of those tropes. More fake Asia to go with the fake Europe which informs a lot of DF! And some fake Africa! And some fake Americas! More everything! Too much is never enough!

That said, I think DF points in that direction more than one might suspect, or at least fails to point away: most templates are fairly culture-neutral (I don't see how one would have to change the thief template to make it conform to pop-culture tropes of feudal Japan or ancient Egypt; the decorative motifs and techniques in DF8 are essentially global) or can be trivially used to adapt them to specific cultures (a samurai is just a knight using a katana; take the axe away from the faux-Viking barbarian, give him a spear and a large shield, and he's a Zulu), a number of bits and pieces are more loudly evocative of non-western tropes than others (shamans, for example), and Mirror of the Fire Demon is in emphatically not-European geography.
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