Why are nukes a thing of the past?

[jeff_wilson]

Originally Posted by malloyd

It seems fine to me. It shouldn't take any longer than a month or two to reprogram your brain so you are no longer a threat either, after that there's no reason not to send you home.

Reprogram by what method?

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Reprogram by what method?

Soft: memetic
Medium: brain bugs
Hard: all of the above plus brute force brain alteration

THS has scary advanced med tech

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Soft: memetic
Medium: brain bugs
Hard: all of the above plus brute force brain alteration

THS has scary advanced med tech

Don't forget:
Maybe-in-Kazakhstan: kill you, then ghost you, then brain-hack the ghost, turn your body into a necroshell and run the new you on it.

[ldj00]

Hello,

The thing about 'nukes' is that they are easy to trace. They emit a signal that everyone is looking for.

Anti-Matter containment, maybe the same?

Self-replicating attacks act as much larger force multipliers: viruses, bacteria, nano-machines, memes, digital viruses... They cost you less to make, they replicate on site, and could make it harder to traceback.

As for war by a Nation State, they all want to be seen as the good guys. Why did the Allies and the US specifically rebuild Germany and Japan after WWII? They want to be the good guys (and they want to make the money on the rebuilding).

[Flyndaran]

With memetic warfare, information is the weapon as well as the most valuable commodity in THS.
It's inefficient for targeted killing and raw number of victims, but those aren't problem for terrorists. If anything, the randomness of it feeds into their goals better.

Dirty bombs would kill fewer people than icy roads, but everyone would lose their minds if any detonated in their city.

[jeff_wilson]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Soft: memetic
Medium: brain bugs
Hard: all of the above plus brute force brain alteration

Memetics aren't reliable per-person, and brainbugs are too easy to remedy. What sort of brute force brain alteratiom did you have in mind?

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

Don't forget:
Maybe-in-Khazakstan: kill you, then ghost you, then brain-hack the ghost, turn your body into a necroshell and run the new you on it.

That is brain destruction, not alteration.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

That does not leave a brain.

Do they care in Kazakhstan?

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by jeff_wilson

Memetics aren't reliable per-person, and brainbugs are too easy to remedy. What sort of brute force brain alteratiom did you have in mind?


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Memetics covers all modern forms of psychological manipulation only better and more effectively. On an individual they would have all sorts of methods to gain an accurate base mental state with which to work.
Cult indoctrination is stone age by comparison.

Brain bugs aren't usually permanent as you say.
Using nanites they could surgically blast, excise, and/or alter basic structure of the brain irreparably.

[Astromancer]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

The implication was that the excuse would be plausible in setting.

Pschology and the need for psychiatic care could be invoked. Or you could claim a religious retreat. Better yet simply say that the Patient left suddenly and you don't know where they are. A wannabe terrorist is likely to have dropped out of sight before without telling their nearest and dearest, so it would be somewhat plausible.

[Astromancer]

Originally Posted by ldj00

Hello,

The thing about 'nukes' is that they are easy to trace. They emit a signal that everyone is looking for.

Anti-Matter containment, maybe the same?

Self-replicating attacks act as much larger force multipliers: viruses, bacteria, nano-machines, memes, digital viruses... They cost you less to make, they replicate on site, and could make it harder to traceback.

As for war by a Nation State, they all want to be seen as the good guys. Why did the Allies and the US specifically rebuild Germany and Japan after WWII? They want to be the good guys (and they want to make the money on the rebuilding).

Scarily good points. Especially about the nasty subtle ways to attack.