05-09-2014, 10:13 AM | #11 | |
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Re: Echo Type Ghost Template
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Basically I was thinking that a Genius Loci could form when a lot of different echoes were created in the same location. All that psychic energy in the same place, left to stew long enough, could form into a "chimera spirit". No reason the same couldn't happen with an existing ghost as it's focus rather than a location: after Zues's death as a mortal faithful followers would invoke him to come and watch over them in battle, as people sometimes think of their family members as watching over them, the intense emotions of fear and terror mixed with the hope that he is watching over them, especially reinforced when they survived, would form echoes that would latch onto Zues, empowering him. If he was an exceptional lover and "bro" I could see people invoking him before trying to seduce him ("Here's to you, Zues!"). Sex includes a lot of intense emotions as well and could produce echoes which would empower him... So basically yes, the existence of ghosts and echoes could explain most spirits and "gods" in the world. But on a more mechanics level I need a little help: Since posting this I acquired GURPS Horror, which was extremely helpful on this matter. I've divided the various types of ghosts listed there into things the two categories I've described above. Echoes:
Ghosts: Standard Ghosts (I usually call them Lost Spirits), Poltergeist, Shade, Revenant, Shadow, Doppelganger, Headless Horseman, Phantom Ship, All other "Higher Order" spirits. I've been trying to create tables so that if I determine an echo is present I can randomly determine what type of echo it is and I wouldn't mind peoples help and thoughts on the matter. Here is what I've got. 3-4 - Eidolon 5-12 - Lesser Eidolon* 13-16 - Apparition 17-18 - Phantasm *: Lesser Eidolon is as the Eidolon on H79 but use Apparition (H78) as the base instead of Phantasm (H79), and use Haunt (H27) in the base instead of Spirit (B263). if an Apparition is rolled use the following table to determine it's type: 3-4 - Positive Message 5-8 - Death Echo 9-12 - Life Echo 13-16 - Will-O'-The-Wisp 17-18 - Negative Message - Messages (possitive and negative) are images which return to deliver a message, but lack any sort of sapience beyond the compulsion to deliver that message. - Life and Death Echoes are images which play through a particularly intense moment: death echoes play through an individuals dying moments, life echoes play through a particularly emotionally or psychically intense moment from someones life (an example includes a Hotel in New Orleans which has numerous reports of a ghostly woman dancing through its courtyard and laughing every couple of nights at a particular time.) If an Eidolon is rolled use the following table and then consult Parrott's emotions by group for an appropriate emotion under that catagory. 3-4 Love 5-9 Joy 10-11 Anger 12-16 Sadness 17-18 Fear Note: Eidolon's can be from life as much as from death, strong positive emotions CAN commonly exist (E.G. a state building might have a lot of "pride" eidolon's floating around.) But I'm not sure about Phantasms. Other than the howlers talked about in GURPS Horror, I was someone at a loss for what different types of Phantasms might exist? Thoughts? For those of you who don't have access to the book a Phantasm is an Apparition which is capable of effecting the physical world, but still isn't sapient. I haven't really begun to try to randomly create Ghosts. |
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05-09-2014, 12:07 PM | #12 |
Join Date: Dec 2012
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Re: Echo Type Ghost Template
You could perhaps use Phantasms as the basis for classic 'Elemental' spirits. I vaguely recall something about hauntings where water, blood, or other substances appear where they shouldn't, and/or behave oddly. That would basically be the Phantasm template with one or more Element-related powers, like Telekinesis (Water Only, -??%) (possibly combined with Exoteleport (Psionic Powers pp69-70) with the same limitation), or Pyrokinesis (Psionic Powers pp56-57).
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05-11-2014, 11:18 AM | #13 | |
Join Date: May 2012
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08-04-2014, 12:51 PM | #14 | |
Join Date: May 2012
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As far as the need to have a table: looking something up on a table is easier for some people than finding the root of something, especially for quick use. So no, it's not at all necessary, but it can be nice to have around. As far as the number of generations: no, it's extremely unlikely a location would have over 56,000 years of use. Although it's certainly possible in a fantasy campaign! |
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