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Old 04-16-2014, 01:07 PM   #18
Peter V. Dell'Orto
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Default Re: [MA] All-Out Attack option - Reckless Charge?

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Originally Posted by Xplo View Post
It's not that mild if their opponents can use Deceptive Attacks and still stand a decent chance of hitting, and if they can't, well, the guy with Weaponating 24+ should probably be slaughtering them anyway.
True, and true. But "No defense" is extremely severe. "-4" is less and less severe the better you are. It's a more and more useful potential tradeoff the higher your base defenses go, and the less attackers you face.

-4 is only an impediment, really, if it also comes with these:

- cannot retreat
- cannot also use the attacking weapon to defend

Even then, it's doable for a sufficiently well-protected fighter. On its own, -4 isn't a worry.

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Originally Posted by gilbertocarlos View Post
If -4 is a kind impediment, they could instead use ripostes that give -4 on the enemy defences(more with the counterattack technique).

Or, they are at least sacrificing the best defence. And dodge, if they're attacked 5 times in one turn, he will have a hard time parrying all those attacks.
The problem is -4 doesn't scale. It doesn't come with problems that can't be covered with raw skill and advantages - like the two I mentioned above - it's always going to get better and better as an option the better and better your defenses get.

And then it still leaves open people who will reasonably say, "I want to give up all of my defenses - even the ones at -4 - for just a little more offense." No truly "no defenses" AOA leaves a gap there.

Same as if AOD still let you attack at a penalty - you could reasonable argue that if you didn't attack at all it would be better still for your defenses.

So I just think "AOA with defenses allowed" is Committed Attack. It's what Committed Attack is for.
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