[Technical Grappling] Teach me using examples

[Icelander]

Originally Posted by chandley

As you mention in your edit, 8 CP is -4 to ST and DX on the Leg. Referred control to all other locations is 4 CP, and so -2 to ST and DX. Whole body penalty is the sum of head and torso referred controls, which is 4 (referred head) + 4 (referred torso) = 8 CP, or -4 to ST and DX for whole body. Note that the leg is only adjacent to the torso, the active CP from the sweep can only be spent on techniques affecting that leg or the torso, not arms, neck, or head, or the other leg.

Since Sir Michael's ST is 20, aren't DX penalties accumulated at half the rate of ST penalties ('Bigger and Stronger' p. 9)?

Originally Posted by chandley

Note that since his leg is hooked, Sir Michael has a grapple on the halberd already, albeit with 0 CP. If he is sufficiently stronger or more skilled, he could try to disarm his opponent through a break free directly, rather than trying to add a limb and then break free. Or add a limb as part of a rapid strike, given how high his Wrestling is.

Nothing that allows Master Braelgar a Parry is likely to succeed. If not for Master Braelgar's ability to Parry at 17+ with his polearm even while using it to grapple, Sir Michael would like to grab the halberd using his longsword, either with Armed Grapple or Bind Weapon.

As it is, I don't think that's a realistic possibility. He'd attack at skill 19 or so and that means he could perform one attack at effective skill 11 with a -4 (becomes -3) barely reducing Master Braelgar's defence or he could make two attacks at 16, with neither one having the slightest chance of hitting without a critical.

Originally Posted by chandley

Wrestling Trained ST 30 and Skill 25 vs TST 21 and Skill 22. Using just the leg in a gesture of supreme contempt, it is (0.6 x ST 20) = 18 +5 (DX+10 TST) = ST 23 -4 = 19, or 2d-1 CP.

Doesn't the -4 ST from the grapple affect this?

Originally Posted by chandley

He is likely to hit (Skill 25 +6 (Evaluate) -14 = Skill 17 and -7 Deceptive attack vs Wrestling Parry 14 -7 = 7), and has reasonable odds of reducing the hook to 0 CP, negating the hook. If he is less contemptuous and uses his own hook to hook Sir Braelgars arm, he would be developing CP of his own to spend on the QC, impose his own Active Control penalties, and make it MUCH harder for Sir Braeglar to increase his CP, as he would have active control on the arm, not just referred control from the leg (which will penalize any use of the 2-handed halberd).

The Evaluate bonus has been used, for the unsuccessful Feint, so Mickey doesn't have that. He also has at least -2 DX and perhaps more, due to the CPs Master Braelgar has on his leg.

And Master Braelgar has Parry 22 with his halberd normally and Parry 18 with Wrestling, I think. At least that's what I calculate from skill 28 with Polearm, skill 26 with Staff and skill 24 with Wrestling; Combat Reflexes and Enhanced Parry 2 (all); as well as Grip and Form Mastery with the Halberd to parry with it in a Staff grip using Defensive Grip .

So Sir Michael is pretty much guaranteed not to hit with anything that allows a Parry, unless he uses one or more of Riposte, Feint and a high-value Deceptive Attack. None are especially feasible with his DX reduced against Master Braelgar's full Parry.