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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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I'm making templates for a world at early TL3 (although, inexplicably, there's full plate around*). But the rest of the world is at early TL3. Promise.
Anyway, there are knights there, and they sometimes lose their weapons on the battlefield. So, what unarmed martial art should these knights (and mercenaries and maybe even experienced militiamen) learn to supplement their swords and maces?
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Iceland*
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Wrestling or Judo see use even when they don't lose their weapons, in that grappling, tripping, throwing, takedowns and other uses of leverage form a core part of most realistic melee fighting styles, particularly if armour is common.
Note that Wrestling is a part of most knightly martial arts and for the one style where it is not, Judo takes its place. Longsword Fighting uses Judo, Master of Defence Training has Wrestling (with Judo as optional), Shortsword Fighting has Judo and both Sword and Buckler and Sword and Shield use Wrestling. For close-in specialists, Dagger Fighting also incorporates Wrestling and Combat Wrestling is a plausible supplemental martial art for any armoured fighter.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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That's what I thought. Striking arts would be dangerous to use when there's metal armor involved... How about Sumo Wrestling?
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Iceland*
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Quote:
*Which can be used or slamming.
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Central Europe
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And pommel striking, which works when armed, does extra damage, and avoids the realistic danger of breaking your hand.
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Join Date: Jul 2008
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Unarmed striking isn't good against armor, and is mostly inferior to using a weapon in any case. But having armor yourself is a considerable plus if it does come down to hitting somebody, and there are likely to be plenty of bodies to hit that aren't heavily armored.
Defense Boxing from Pyramid 3-61 being an example of taking this pretty far.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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I probably won't be using styles - I don't need the detail - but it's still useful to know which skills would be good.
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Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Caxias do Sul, Brazil
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Cheap plate would make mail very rare, so, having the average DR higher, you should expect more 2 handed weapons.
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Several Ancient Greeks pointed out that martial arts skills were of limited use in a closed formation. So a lot depends on how the culture fights.
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Gothenburg, Sweden
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Plate is probably not cheap, since only Dwarves can make it and they are very finicky with who they sell to.
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