Reduced Temperature Tolerance (Smaller Comfort Zone Range)?

[Nereidalbel]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

Personally I think those without Unhealing should be able to heal the HT, at the very least those with Regrowth should. But I'm not the line editor.

By allowing HT recovery with proper medicine, any game where ItMH is allowed will likely have some way to heal you. Whether it's the medical team the Justice League has to keep everybody going, or somebody with the Healing power.

At least it's only mostly permanent loss?

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

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Personally I think those without Unhealing should be able to heal the HT, at the very least those with Regrowth should. But I'm not the line editor.

Could you give an example of a character that can regrow body parts but can't actually heal? They seem to be mutually exclusive advantages. How does one gain new tissue without, in effect, healing?

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

Personally I'd would buy loads of TT (And radiation tolerance and pressure support) if I was taking ItMH. Sure that +15 means that most of the time you'll only fail on a 17-18 (1 time in 54) but when you fail you lose one point of HT permanently!
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It's not the ItMH that is dangerous. It's the no Fatigue feature. For robots, one could buy limited energy reserve labeled emergency thermal regulators or something.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

Could you give an example of a character that can regrow body parts but can't actually heal? They seem to be mutually exclusive advantages. How does one gain new tissue without, in effect, healing?

No. But I wasn't assuming Unhealing and Regrowth. To clarify I meant that those without Unhealing should be able to heal the HT loss, those without Unhealing and Regrowth should definitely be able to heal the HT loss.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

It's not the ItMH that is dangerous. It's the no Fatigue feature. For robots, one could buy limited energy reserve labeled emergency thermal regulators or something.

I don't know if the new rules assume you have the "no Fatigue" feature.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by Flyndaran

It's not the ItMH that is dangerous. It's the no Fatigue feature. For robots, one could buy limited energy reserve labeled emergency thermal regulators or something.

No FP by itself isn't dangerous, as you just don't lose FP. ER wouldn't help either, as you don't normally spend FP to fight temperature either.

[NineDaysDead]

Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

No FP by itself isn't dangerous, as you just don't lose FP.

No, but when a machine operates beyond its normal limits, it risks lasting structural damage. This takes the form of reduced HT, not lost FP.

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

No FP by itself isn't dangerous, as you just don't lose FP. ER wouldn't help either, as you don't normally spend FP to fight temperature either.

ER counts as fatigue for all purposes unless expressly limited. Buying it as insurance against HT loss shouldn't tick off any GMs.

No FP means that you may lose HT permanently which is far worse than merely taking time to recover FP.

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

I don't know if the new rules assume you have the "no Fatigue" feature.

The machine template includes it, but simply being immune to metabolic hazards has nothing intrinsically to do with lacking FP.

[Flyndaran]

Originally Posted by NineDaysDead

No. But I wasn't assuming Unhealing and Regrowth. To clarify I meant that those without Unhealing should be able to heal the HT loss, those without Unhealing and Regrowth should definitely be able to heal the HT loss.

I can't think of any R.A.W. example of regaining lost Stats, except from age resets fixing those lost purely from aging.
That's a shaky precedent, but better than nothing, I guess.