[RPM] Question about Limited

[Angle]

Ritual adept just reduces casting time and difficulty, he wants a limitation for magery. I'd say that Mastered Rituals and Grimoire References is -50%, myself. just slap that on magery, with (levels only), and you're good. And you might as well put it on Ritual Adept too, while you're at it.

[jamesfoxbr]

Originally Posted by Angle

Ritual adept just reduces casting time and difficulty, he wants a limitation for magery. I'd say that Mastered Rituals and Grimoire References is -50%, myself. just slap that on magery, with (levels only), and you're good. And you might as well put it on Ritual Adept too, while you're at it.

Wait the correct is use the Limitation on Margery, not on Ritual Adept? If uses the limitation on magery a non-adept without Magery will improvise Rituals... I think the correct is use the Limitation on Ritual Adept. I don't wish anyone in the setting improvising Rituals.

[Raekai]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

Wait the correct is use the Limitation on Margery, not on Ritual Adept? If uses the limitation on magery a non-adept without Magery will improvise Rituals... I think the correct is use the Limitation on Ritual Adept. I don't wish anyone in the setting improvising Rituals.

You can put a limitation on both. Honestly, that sounds like what you want to do. That's how I've ran it in my games. And, yes, the limitation is -50%.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

Wait the correct is use the Limitation on Margery, not on Ritual Adept? If uses the limitation on magery a non-adept without Magery will improvise Rituals... I think the correct is use the Limitation on Ritual Adept. I don't wish anyone in the setting improvising Rituals.

If no one in the campaign setting can improvise rituals this is not a limitation - it's campaign feature and worth exactly 0 points. To be able to improvise rituals on the fly is a Unusual Background.

[jamesfoxbr]

This is a good point using for campaign feature because wizards don't improvise in the setting (maybe only rare people from old traditions). How much suggest for Unusual Background cost?

The wizards/sorcerers (Adepts) will buy rituals for grimoires, I'm thinking about rules for wizards create Rituals using something like New Invention Rules too.

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One more question, what the best way to use RPM working different for Arcane and Divine magic? I'm think if in my campaign clerics will use some variant RPM (maybe using the magery or changing magery to Power Investiture) or if I use Gurps Power: Divine Favors for clerics.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

This is a good point using for campaign feature because wizards don't improvise in the setting (maybe only rare people from old traditions). How much suggest for Unusual Background cost?

It depends on how rare you want it to be in the game. If it requires some training, but not a lot - 10 points. If you want it to equal the exact cost of a otherwise limited Ritual Adept in a typical campaign - 20 points, which would also be a fair amount for maybe a handful of such wizards per country or big city. If it's really rare, maybe a hundred or so people in the world - 50 points.

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

The wizards/sorcerers (Adepts) will buy rituals for grimoires, I'm thinking about rules for wizards create Rituals using something like New Invention Rules too.

I did exactly this in a relatively short-lived campaign I ran. For more information on inventing new spells and how it might work read this post.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

[Edit]
One more question, what the best way to use RPM working different for Arcane and Divine magic? I'm think if in my campaign clerics will use some variant RPM (maybe using the magery or changing magery to Power Investiture) or if I use Gurps Power: Divine Favors for clerics.

I've suggested this in the past and I've submitted a Pyramid article that will cover this a bit more.

[jamesfoxbr]

Page 20 say unless the caster rolls a critical failure he can abort a spell , but if he choose abort after already get some normal failures with quirks when abort ignore quirk effects or no?

[jamesfoxbr]

I use in my campaigns the optional rules from Gurps power-ups 3: Talents page 25 "Smooth Talent Cost". by the rule a Suggested cost for Natural Caster from RPM is 17/Level. The question is not about this, but about the other rule of alternative benefits. I need suggestion what use instead reaction with other casters.

[Walrus]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

If no one in the campaign setting can improvise rituals this is not a limitation - it's campaign feature and worth exactly 0 points. To be able to improvise rituals on the fly is a Unusual Background.

But this certainly limits casters against non-casters.

If the single kind of Powers in campaign is Psionic, this doesn't mean that thise Powers shouldn't have PM as a campaign feature, they just have PM. And UB may be required to buy wild supernatural abilites.