[RPM] Question about Limited

[jamesfoxbr]

How much cost a Limitation for Ritual Adept Advantage: can't improvise new rituals and need use the rituals from limited know list like a grimoire? This make more sense in the campaign setting I'm using. I need use this Limitation to make Advantage cost less or is fine use the same price?

[Pragmatic]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

How much cost a Limitation for Ritual Adept Advantage: can't improvise new rituals and need use the rituals from limited know list like a grimoire? This make more sense in the campaign setting I'm using. I need use this Limitation to make Advantage cost less or is fine use the same price?

When I asked about "Ritual Adept (Ritual Mastery or Grimoire only)," I was told it was probably worth -50% or -60%.

So only the spells you REALLY know, or have written in front of you, get to use the Ritual Adept advantage. (And note that the four sections of Ritual Adept can have this limitation bought off separately.)

[Angle]

Ritual adept just reduces casting time and difficulty, he wants a limitation for magery. I'd say that Mastered Rituals and Grimoire References is -50%, myself. just slap that on magery, with (levels only), and you're good. And you might as well put it on Ritual Adept too, while you're at it.

[jamesfoxbr]

Originally Posted by Angle

Ritual adept just reduces casting time and difficulty, he wants a limitation for magery. I'd say that Mastered Rituals and Grimoire References is -50%, myself. just slap that on magery, with (levels only), and you're good. And you might as well put it on Ritual Adept too, while you're at it.

Wait the correct is use the Limitation on Margery, not on Ritual Adept? If uses the limitation on magery a non-adept without Magery will improvise Rituals... I think the correct is use the Limitation on Ritual Adept. I don't wish anyone in the setting improvising Rituals.

[Raekai]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

Wait the correct is use the Limitation on Margery, not on Ritual Adept? If uses the limitation on magery a non-adept without Magery will improvise Rituals... I think the correct is use the Limitation on Ritual Adept. I don't wish anyone in the setting improvising Rituals.

You can put a limitation on both. Honestly, that sounds like what you want to do. That's how I've ran it in my games. And, yes, the limitation is -50%.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by jamesfoxbr

Wait the correct is use the Limitation on Margery, not on Ritual Adept? If uses the limitation on magery a non-adept without Magery will improvise Rituals... I think the correct is use the Limitation on Ritual Adept. I don't wish anyone in the setting improvising Rituals.

If no one in the campaign setting can improvise rituals this is not a limitation - it's campaign feature and worth exactly 0 points. To be able to improvise rituals on the fly is a Unusual Background.

[jamesfoxbr]

This is a good point using for campaign feature because wizards don't improvise in the setting (maybe only rare people from old traditions). How much suggest for Unusual Background cost?

The wizards/sorcerers (Adepts) will buy rituals for grimoires, I'm thinking about rules for wizards create Rituals using something like New Invention Rules too.

[Edit]
One more question, what the best way to use RPM working different for Arcane and Divine magic? I'm think if in my campaign clerics will use some variant RPM (maybe using the magery or changing magery to Power Investiture) or if I use Gurps Power: Divine Favors for clerics.

[Walrus]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

If no one in the campaign setting can improvise rituals this is not a limitation - it's campaign feature and worth exactly 0 points. To be able to improvise rituals on the fly is a Unusual Background.

But this certainly limits casters against non-casters.

If the single kind of Powers in campaign is Psionic, this doesn't mean that thise Powers shouldn't have PM as a campaign feature, they just have PM. And UB may be required to buy wild supernatural abilites.