Grappled & Ranged Attacks: Martial Arts vs. Tactical Shooting vs. Technical Grappling

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Doesn't No Manipulators imply no arms and then some? As Technical Grappling implies, you can't make any limb strikes with No Manipulators, and can't leg grapple.

Rereading, you're right. No Manipulators is many things, among which is shorthand for SNAKE.

No Fine Manipulators is -40% and has the 0.3xST instead of 0.5xST impact for an arm (or 0.6xST for a pair of arms).

No Grasping Hand seems to say, currently, that "yes, you can manipulate objects, perform repairs, and whatnot, but your grip is still just as bas as with No Fine Manipulators." It is also currently worth -40%.

I'll take this offline, and see what we see.