DF 16 ???

[Blind Mapmaker]

I would really love to see a more in-depth "Dungeon Builder's Guidebook" full of traps, concealed doors, blind corridors and general nastiness.

[Phantasm]

I'm kinda hoping it's DF:Bestiary II, but if it's being touted as "DF 16" and not "DF:B2", it's probably not that.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Blind Mapmaker

I would really love to see a more in-depth "Dungeon Builder's Guidebook" full of traps, concealed doors, blind corridors and general nastiness.

I have a Pyramid article that's all about this. But it got rejected because it was too long and table-ridden. Might try submitting it again or maybe propose a book...

[DouglasCole]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I have a Pyramid article that's all about this. But it got rejected because it was too long and table-ridden. Might try submitting it again or maybe propose a book...

DF:Ninjas was only 14,000 words including ad copy. The Deadly Spring was 11,000 words. So if you're in the 10 to 15,000-word range (or can get there) you're in "short e23 supplement" territory, so I encourage the proposal!

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by DouglasCole

DF:Ninjas was only 14,000 words including ad copy. The Deadly Spring was 11,000 words. So if you're in the 10 to 15,000-word range (or can get there) you're in "short e23 supplement" territory, so I encourage the proposal!

I've been really thinking about, I wanted to expand it anyways. Maybe after the pipe line unclogs I'll send it in. I was told it was a damn nifty idea (it had random roll tables for traps, what type it was, how powerful it was, etc.).

[Kromm]

Well, DF 16 isn't about traps, but there are six examples – about a page and a half – of fully worked traps in there, so it's worth waiting for just to get a feel for the style (and lethality level!).

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Well, DF 16 isn't about traps, but there are six examples – about a page and a half – of fully worked traps in there, so it's worth waiting for just to get a feel for the style (and lethality level!).

Well, damn. There goes that proposal. :/

[Kromm]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Well, damn. There goes that proposal. :/

No, just the opposite! I'm saying that DF 16 will give such a proposal a leg up because it'll establish both style (important to writers) and capabilities (important to players) more firmly than DF 2.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Kromm

Well, DF 16 isn't about traps, but there are six examples – about a page and a half – of fully worked traps in there, so it's worth waiting for just to get a feel for the style (and lethality level!).

So long as it doesn't step on my proposal for a Pyramid article on DF settlement economics.

[Rasputin]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

I've been really thinking about, I wanted to expand it anyways. Maybe after the pipe line unclogs I'll send it in. I was told it was a damn nifty idea (it had random roll tables for traps, what type it was, how powerful it was, etc.).

Please, do that, and give examples of how various general trap types (pit trap, spiked needle on a lock, et cetera) work. Traps are the great unwashed crunchy bit of GURPS DF; even most of my traps on the GURPS Repository are translations from d20 or are based on those traps as chassis.