Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell

helium_wong · 04-01-2013, 02:51 PM

The Munchkinomicon said "...Draw a Spell if you start the turn with the Munchkinomicon...". When should we draw this Spell if we are using the Listen At The Door rule? According to this thread, we should draw the face-down Door card first, then the Spell, and then Kick Open A Door, am I correct?

If I forget to draw such Spell and realize it in the same turn, but after I did something (e.g., Kick Open A Door or selling Items), can I draw the Spell?

Thanks.

emillang1000 · 04-01-2013, 03:49 PM

I think the trigger for the "Draw a Spell" is as soon as your turn begins.

So even though Listening is the first thing you normally do, I think Drawing a Spell takes precedence over Listening.

Andrew Hackard · 06-30-2013, 04:40 PM

I am at a loss to think of a time when the order matters (and I'm not soliciting a long discussion of when it might), but according to the precedent of other "beginning of turn" effects, I'm saying "Draw a Spell, then Listen." But I don't think anything breaks if you go in the other order.

Enzzo · 07-04-2013, 12:16 PM

At what point is it too late to claim this card? Could you, for example, wait until the player before you completes their Charity phase, and steal the 'Nomicon right before your turn begins, so you could get a Spell for stealing it and for having it at the beginning of your turn?

Andrew Hackard · 07-04-2013, 01:56 PM

The completion of the Charity phase IS the end of that player's turn. There's no time between "your turn is over" and "my turn begins."

Enzzo · 07-06-2013, 08:42 AM

Could you steal the 'Nomicon during the Charity phase, then?

Not trying to split hairs, but the question has come up a few times at our table.

Clipper · 07-06-2013, 04:49 PM

As far as I understand the rules, no. Once you start giving out your cards (or discarding them if you are the lowest-Level) you must finish reducing your hand to the correct size before anything else can happen and as soon as you are done, your turn ends and the next turn starts immediately.

Thus, anyone wanting to take the Munchkinomicon just before their turn must do so before the previous player starts reducing their hand (or before they declare they end their turn if they don't need to give Charity).

04-01-2013, 02:51 PM	#1
helium_wong Join Date: May 2012	Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell The Munchkinomicon said "...Draw a Spell if you start the turn with the Munchkinomicon...". When should we draw this Spell if we are using the Listen At The Door rule? According to this thread, we should draw the face-down Door card first, then the Spell, and then Kick Open A Door, am I correct? If I forget to draw such Spell and realize it in the same turn, but after I did something (e.g., Kick Open A Door or selling Items), can I draw the Spell? Thanks. __________________ I am not a native English speaker.

04-01-2013, 03:49 PM	#2
emillang1000 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Philadelphia, PA	Re: Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell I think the trigger for the "Draw a Spell" is as soon as your turn begins. So even though Listening is the first thing you normally do, I think Drawing a Spell takes precedence over Listening. __________________ Dx 2-7 MFD ME RLD Conan FD MNM WFS SR RG Jumbo D6, KoM

06-30-2013, 04:40 PM	#3
Andrew Hackard *Munchkin* Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, TX	Re: Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell I am at a loss to think of a time when the order matters (and I'm not soliciting a long discussion of when it might), but according to the precedent of other "beginning of turn" effects, I'm saying "Draw a Spell, then Listen." But I don't think anything breaks if you go in the other order. __________________ Andrew Hackard, *Munchkin* Line Editor If you have a question that isn't getting answered, we have a thread for that. Let people like what they like. Don't be a gamer hater. #PlayMunchkin on social media: Twitter \|\| Facebook \|\| Instagram \|\| YouTube Follow us on Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games and Warehouse 23

07-04-2013, 12:16 PM	#4
Enzzo Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, UT	Re: Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell At what point is it too late to claim this card? Could you, for example, wait until the player before you completes their Charity phase, and steal the 'Nomicon right before your turn begins, so you could get a Spell for stealing it and for having it at the beginning of your turn?

07-04-2013, 01:56 PM	#5
Andrew Hackard *Munchkin* Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, TX	Re: Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell The completion of the Charity phase IS the end of that player's turn. There's no time between "your turn is over" and "my turn begins." __________________ Andrew Hackard, *Munchkin* Line Editor If you have a question that isn't getting answered, we have a thread for that. Let people like what they like. Don't be a gamer hater. #PlayMunchkin on social media: Twitter \|\| Facebook \|\| Instagram \|\| YouTube Follow us on Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games and Warehouse 23

07-06-2013, 08:42 AM	#6
Enzzo Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, UT	Re: Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell Could you steal the 'Nomicon during the Charity phase, then? Not trying to split hairs, but the question has come up a few times at our table.

07-06-2013, 04:49 PM	#7
Clipper Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Sydney, Australia	Re: Munchkinomicon: Draw Spell As far as I understand the rules, no. Once you start giving out your cards (or discarding them if you are the lowest-Level) you must finish reducing your hand to the correct size before anything else can happen and as soon as you are done, your turn ends and the next turn starts immediately. Thus, anyone wanting to take the Munchkinomicon just before their turn must do so before the previous player starts reducing their hand (or before they declare they end their turn if they don't need to give Charity). __________________ My unofficial, but comprehensive Flowcharts: Munchkin: A4 Letter; Munchkin Quest: A4 Letter Rules Checklist for all Munchkin sets: A4 Letter.