Ranking Attack Roll Margin of Success

[Orochi-art]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

...so you make shields useless for Parry and Dodge defenses?

No. I still allow shield DB on parry and dodge defenses. I wanted three different effects for cinematic purposes.

dodge - slash across the arm, cheek etc
parry - clash of weapons
shield - bash on the shield.

Although shield DB on dodge is still a debate. My Shield makes me dodge better There are arguments for and against.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Orochi-art

No. I still allow shield DB on parry and dodge defenses. I wanted three different effects for cinematic purposes.

You included '+DB' in the block defense line but not the parry or dodge lines. Is that an error, or does it mean something?

Also, the Block 1 and Block 2 descriptions appear to do the same thing. "attacker strikes the shield" vs "shield is struck"...

[Orochi-art]

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

You included '+DB' in the block defense line but not the parry or dodge lines. Is that an error, or does it mean something?

I included DB in Block description to make a distinction what are triggers and consequences.

In my point of view you are using shield as a helping hand during dodging and parrying. While during Block shield has a possibility to take a full force of a blow. Different ways of using it.

You can use shield during parry and dodge but for cinematic reasons only consequences are:

dodge - slash across the arm, cheek etc
parry - clash of weapons

Originally Posted by Ulzgoroth

Also, the Block 1 and Block 2 descriptions appear to do the same thing. "attacker strikes the shield" vs "shield is struck"...

They do the same thing but it comes from two different sources. When attacker has a upper hand and when defender has an upper hand. I only wanted to extend the definition in case someone has doubts does it work in both ways.

Example 1: Aggressor attacks for 4 MoS. Defender uses DB 2 shield and has Mos 2. Difference is +2 in favor of attacker. But shield has DB 2. Shield is struck

Example 2: Aggressor attacks for 2 MoS. Defender uses DB 2 shield and has Mos 4. Difference is +2 in favor of defender. With shield having DB 2 he needs to put it in a way to intercept the blow. He wasn't able to deflect it. Shield is struck

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Orochi-art

They do the same thing but it comes from two different sources. When attacker has a upper hand and when defender has an upper hand. I only wanted to extend the definition in case someone has doubts does it work in both ways.

Example 1: Aggressor attacks for 4 MoS. Defender uses DB 2 shield and has Mos 2. Difference is +2 in favor of attacker. But shield has DB 2. Shield is struck

Example 2: Aggressor attacks for 2 MoS. Defender uses DB 2 shield and has Mos 4. Difference is +2 in favor of defender. With shield having DB 2 he needs to put it in a way to intercept the blow. He wasn't able to deflect it. Shield is struck

Er. So on the one hand, I can't see any difference between those two. Nobody 'has the upper hand', one character or the other had a better number and got no benefit from it.

On the other more significant hand, you appear to have doubled the effectiveness of shields, since you add DB to your block and then still block the attack if you fail the contest by DB or less. Maybe appropriate since you've doubled the scale of the basic defense values.