Cosmic vs. Cosmic (ala Kryptonian vs. Kryptonian?)

[Sunrunners_Fire]

Originally Posted by Ragabash Moon

Heroic ST, Super ST, it had many names over the years of 3rd edition. What it amounted to was instead of the normal bell curve that all attributes used in 3rd edition, you could have "Extra/Heroic/Super/Whatever ST" as low as 1 CP per point of ST depending on the campaign and level of ST. So back then, you could pretty much make Superman able to punch the Earth and explode the planet, or rip it out of orbit for around 5000 points or so, maybe even less. Been a long time since I did the math, but it's nowhere near the 10,000 or more you'd need to be able to rip a planet out of orbit in 4th edition.

Ripping Earth out of its' orbit isn't necessarily expensive ...

Earth's mass, 1.31695E25 lbs.

Lifting ST +76 (Super-Effort, +400%) [1140] gives you an effective Lifting ST of 1E13 which gives a BL of 2E25 lbs. Earth is hereby a No Encumbrance weight to you with room left over.

Earth's orbital speed, 32,567.804 yards per second.

Flight (Space Flight, +50%) [60] and Enhanced Move 15 (Space; Instantaneous Acceleration, +50%) [450], assuming a Basic Speed of 5.00, gives you a Space Move of 327,680 yards per second. More than sufficient to shove the planet around.

Total point cost? [1,650].

Smashing Earth with a punch isn't necessarily expensive either ...

Per GURPS Supers, pg 125, you're talking Super-ST 55 [2,200] to potentially one-shot 1.88 billion HP with a 5 million DR shell.

Note that if you take Super-ST 55, you'd only need to take Lifting ST +21 (Super-Effort, +400%) [315] in addition in order to do the stuff in the first section.

Total cost? [2,200].

Total cost to do both? [3,025]. You were saying something about it costing too many points? Heh.

Originally Posted by Ragabash Moon

Also, I might add that I use the official GURPS Character Assistant to make characters usually, and so while "Extra ST" isn't in the book in the advantages section, it's still something that the makers of the program, the official program, put in the program specifically for having ST with modifiers on it. Which is probably why I forgot about it, and also why you have no idea what I am talking about.

I'm aware of GCA's terminology, yes. That wasn't the confusing part.