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Old 04-30-2013, 01:13 PM   #13
Kromm
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Default Re: GURPS Basic Set 4E, Revised...?

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1. Has there been any discussion on such a thing, officially or not?
That's the sort of thing that we would discuss officially but also internally (before raising the point with customers, I mean). I will only say that we have never had a serious internal discussion about it.

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2. Do you think it's time/needed?
Given that the appendix added to the Basic Set, Third Edition Revised – and ultimately, all of Compendium I and II – came to be seen as "required," even though SJ Games didn't force them down throats, it stands to reason that any addendum or compendium for the Basic Set, Fourth Edition would come to be seen as "required." As we already get a lot of flak for how large the Basic Set, Fourth Edition is, I think that if we did have a serious internal discussion, we would conclude that an intermediate edition would be suicidally bad. At 576 pages plus appendices and/or compendia, the game would be lambasted by the hobby and summarily executed.

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3. What would be added in the appendix and how?
See above, really . . . Inasmuch as a revision would even be considered, it's certainly the case that we would focus on adding in innovations from GURPS Fourth Edition supplements published since 2004. We would not re-revisit GURPS Third Edition supplements. A stated goal of the multi-year process of revising 3e to 4e was putting those old works to bed going forward.

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But collecting the hiking, telegraphic attack, chase, trap, etc. rules
Yeah, that's exactly the sort of post-2004 content to which I'm referring in my third answer above!

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For that matter, has everything in Compendium II been updated to 4E yet? I know the Basic set is missing the worked-example diseases and poisons and herbs, outdoor hazards, atmospheres, gravity, pressure, pollution, radiation, Enigmatic Alien Device Button-Pushing Table, and healing tech rules.
You might be missing pages, then, since my copy includes Different Gravity (p. B350), Hazardous Atmospheres (p. B429), Atmospheric Pressure (pp. B429-430), Gravity and Acceleration (p. B434), Pressure (p. B435), Radiation (pp. B435-436), etc. and even the Enigmatic Device Table (pp. B478-479). Specific diseases, herbs, poisons, etc. were omitted as non-generic . . . they're world-specific, although long lists for the real world do appear in supplements like Low-Tech.

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I'm guessing the mass combat and abstract vehicular combat have been updated in some other book, though.
Mass combat is in Mass Combat. Basic Vehicular Combat is on pp. B467-470; the advanced version will have to wait for Vehicle Design.



Ultimately, I think that a lot of "missing" content is actually out there in either the Basic Set, Fourth Edition or a PDF. Current thinking at SJ Games is to sell add-on content via PDFs on e23, and I somewhat doubt that we would steal the thunder from existing publications by republishing key rules in a collection. Considering those rules for a future full edition – in the 2020s, as others have said – is a whole other issue. That is very likely what we would do, assuming there is a 5e someday.
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