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Old 04-26-2013, 01:16 PM   #11
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So what is Naturalist better for then?
Its' better?
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:23 PM   #12
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It's better in that it gets you Survival capability in all environments. There's no default between Survival specialties (which, maybe, there should be).
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:46 PM   #13
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It's better in that it gets you Survival capability in all environments. There's no default between Survival specialties (which, maybe, there should be).
I agree that Naturalist is more efficient point-wise than purchasing all sixteen Survival specialties individually. I dispute the idea that it is "better" than Survival.
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:47 PM   #14
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But would that be realistic if you play a SciFi Campaign or travel overseas to other countries???
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Old 04-26-2013, 01:53 PM   #15
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But would that be realistic if you play a SciFi Campaign
Naturalist (Earth) is only good when you're on Earth, correct. Naturalist has a mandatory specialty related to which planet it is relevant to.

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or travel overseas to other countries???
The GM can always apply familiarity penalties, if it desires to do so and feels they are appropriate.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:03 PM   #16
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I agree that Naturalist is more efficient point-wise than purchasing all sixteen Survival specialties individually. I dispute the idea that it is "better" than Survival.
You appear to have misunderstood me.

I was replying to a post which proposed functions for Naturalist and Survival which had Survival doing vastly more in every respect. Thus I questioned what Naturalist was better at that would justify it existing as a skill.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:17 PM   #17
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It's better in that it gets you Survival capability in all environments. There's no default between Survival specialties (which, maybe, there should be).
Survival says if you can eat it, not if it's good for constipation or tasty for ferrets and red bandersnatches.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:24 PM   #18
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Naturalist (Earth) is only good when you're on Earth, correct. Naturalist has a mandatory specialty related to which planet it is relevant to.
Well, in that case survival on an alien planet, with alien biochemistry and all, isn't an option either.
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Old 04-26-2013, 02:24 PM   #19
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So what is Naturalist better for then?
Well, it can be used to find herbs of plants of a desired species, and thus as an aid to Pharmacy (Herbal). Sam Gamgee (in the movie) has no particular wilderness survival skills—he has to ask Gollum to catch rabbits for him!—but he knows athelas on sight.

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Old 04-26-2013, 02:26 PM   #20
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It's better in that it gets you Survival capability in all environments. There's no default between Survival specialties (which, maybe, there should be).
There certainly is! Every land specialty defaults to every other land specialty at -3; every water specialty to every other water specialty at -4.

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