Tyrants, Cheaters and Holy Warriors!

Kilroy3rd · 09-26-2012, 08:30 AM

Does a Munchkin Warrior, who gets +1 for every card he discards during combat, who is wearing Holy Rollers, which gives him +3 for every card he discards during combat against Undead Monsters get a +4 against Undead, for every card he discards up to three cards max?
I would say yes, because 1) The Munchkin is only getting the +4 advantage against Undead. 2) Holy Rollers are an item that gives a limited ability to a class other than Cleric. 3) This kind of thinking is the foundation of being a Munchkin!
I was told by another player that you can only choose one or the other bonus.

Enzzo · 09-26-2012, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Kilroy3rd

I was told by another player that you can only choose one or the other bonus.

The other player is right.

Think of it this way: At the convenience store, a king-size candy bar costs $1.00. A soda also costs $1.00. There are no sales going on, and you have no special coupons. If you only give the clerk 1 dollar, you do not get the soda and the candy. You would have to spend $2 to get both.

Brf · 09-26-2012, 09:53 AM

A discarded card can only be used to activate a single ability.
As that player discards each card he would have to specify which ability that card is being applied to.

Kilroy3rd · 09-26-2012, 11:14 AM

I see this as a question of say RPGing … as in: A 3-3.5 D&D Ranger can have a Favored Enemy and also he can there is a weapon that has a Bane-type to it. Do you void the Ranger’s bonus just because he uses a weapon with the same creature type as the weapon’s bonus? No.
As for one card for one ability,… I don’t see how it is a particularly “different” ability. It’s an attack and again this is limited to ONE-type of creature, it’s not as if it is a plus 4 to every monster.
So, basically… it’s 6 cards for +12 against an undead?

Vincentheartthrob · 09-26-2012, 11:19 AM

Yeah, but this is Munchkin not D&D and that's not how Munchkin works.

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Originally Posted by Kilroy3rd

So, basically… it’s 6 cards for +12 against an undead?

Yep. :)

Kilroy3rd · 09-26-2012, 11:47 AM

True

Q. Do combat bonuses that monsters receive against Races or Classes stack? For example, if a monster gets +4 against Dwarves and +4 against Elves and I'm a half-Dwarf/half-Elf, does that monster get +8 in combat against me?
A. Unless it says otherwise on the card itself, monster combat bonuses do stack. This means that the above monster would be a +8. (Fair warning: this is a change from previous discussions, but it IS the official ruling henceforth.)

And that is Munchkin ... so, I don't see the big issue with my theory.

09-26-2012, 08:30 AM	#1
Kilroy3rd Join Date: Sep 2012	Tyrants, Cheaters and Holy Warriors! Does a Munchkin Warrior, who gets +1 for every card he discards during combat, who is wearing Holy Rollers, which gives him +3 for every card he discards during combat against Undead Monsters get a +4 against Undead, for every card he discards up to three cards max? I would say yes, because 1) The Munchkin is only getting the +4 advantage against Undead. 2) Holy Rollers are an item that gives a limited ability to a class other than Cleric. 3) This kind of thinking is the foundation of being a Munchkin! I was told by another player that you can only choose one or the other bonus.

09-26-2012, 09:53 AM	#3
Brf Join Date: Apr 2011	Re: Tyrants, Cheaters and Holy Warriors! A discarded card can only be used to activate a single ability. As that player discards each card he would have to specify which ability that card is being applied to.

09-26-2012, 11:14 AM	#4
Kilroy3rd Join Date: Sep 2012	Re: Tyrants, Cheaters and Holy Warriors! I see this as a question of say RPGing … as in: A 3-3.5 D&D Ranger can have a Favored Enemy and also he can there is a weapon that has a Bane-type to it. Do you void the Ranger’s bonus just because he uses a weapon with the same creature type as the weapon’s bonus? No. As for one card for one ability,… I don’t see how it is a particularly “different” ability. It’s an attack and again this is limited to ONE-type of creature, it’s not as if it is a plus 4 to every monster. So, basically… it’s 6 cards for +12 against an undead?

09-26-2012, 11:47 AM	#6
Kilroy3rd Join Date: Sep 2012	Re: Tyrants, Cheaters and Holy Warriors! True Q. Do combat bonuses that monsters receive against Races or Classes stack? For example, if a monster gets +4 against Dwarves and +4 against Elves and I'm a half-Dwarf/half-Elf, does that monster get +8 in combat against me? A. Unless it says otherwise on the card itself, monster combat bonuses do stack. This means that the above monster would be a +8. (Fair warning: this is a change from previous discussions, but it IS the official ruling henceforth.) And that is Munchkin ... so, I don't see the big issue with my theory.