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Old 08-20-2012, 06:56 PM   #6
Trachmyr
 
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Default Re: [LT] Leather (& Textile) weight issues and Scaling to size.

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Originally Posted by DanHoward View Post
The base line was DR 2 hardened leather that was made from 16-18 oz leather. Everything else was extrapolated from that and then tweaked to fit the rest of the list. The main objective was to get leather to fit into a more realistic place in the comparative protection list. Assuming all are of equal weight the order of protection should be something like

Leather
Rawhide/Hardened leather
Padded cloth/Felt
Layered leather
Layered cloth
Scale
Lamellar
Mail
Brigandine
Segmented plate
Solid plate

It probably means that LT leather armour is a little too heavy compared to realistic values.
Ahhh... Thank you so much for the feedback!
16/18 is a really thick piece of leather, heavier the Sole rounds! And there's the extra 20% weight. A piece of leather that thick, I'd Give DR2* +1 vs, Cut (-1vs. Impale), and it's on the border of Flexible/Ridgid (Flexible normally, Treat as Ridgid is Layered with anything offering even partial DR).

Have have two questions then:
1) First is how the CF of Expert Tailoring was derived.
2) What was the Basline SIZE of armor, as in who was it fitted for... mass-wise or square-foot wise?

I ask, because I'm considering these changes/optional rules:

Option: Armor Sizing: The armor presented in Low-Tech uses a warrior for basline weights with a GURPS equivalent ST/HP of 12. Optionally, you may choose to size armors based on individual HP. To do so, find the final weight of armor, divide by 1.2, then multiply by HP/10. To find the cost of larger armor, simply increase the final cost by 10% per HP greater than 12. There is no cost reduction for lighter armor. This rule only applies to individual members of the same race and SM, use normal scaling rules otherwise.

Tailoring TL0
Flexible Leather/Textiles: Cost is +0.05CF per % of weight reduction up to 20%, plus +0.1CF per additional % of reduction up to 30%.
Ridgid Leather/Textiles & Flexible Others: Cost is +0.1CF per % of weight reduction up to 20%, plus +0.2CF per additional % of reduction up to 30%.
Ridgid Others: Cost is +0.15CF per % of weight reduction up to 20%, plus +0.3CF per additional % of reduction up to 30%.
Expert Tailoring TL1: Min. Weight reduction is 15%, and double the CF. Gives -1 to Targeting Chinks in armor, bonus to holdout, etc.
Masterful Tailoring TL1: Min. Weight reduction is 25%, and CF is 5x normal. Gives -2 to Targeting Chinks in armor, bonus to holdout, etc.
Cheap Tailoring: Little attention is paid to fit, and is often loose in areas or uses many straps and buckles to ensure a proper fit. Increase Weight by 20%. -0.2CF.
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