[DF] 125 pt start?

[Carlos]

Originally Posted by Toadkiller_Dog

The player has a cool concept, yes, but they're self-limiting in much the same way as someone who takes a similarly limited character - say a knife fighter, or a melee wizard. You've chosen something niche and hard, and IMO it's not up to the GM to make sure that niche character is equally useful all the time or gets extra value out of their disadvantages. That's up to the player. IMO.

But don't you think that fighting barehanded is a classical Monk archetype, while Knife Fighter and Melee Wizard aren't?

I see no problem at all with Kromm building the Martial Artist inspired on Diablo II's assassin. It's cool as hell (maybe a order of monks devoted to hunt down evil wizards). But, I think its also a valid concept if someone wants to build a Akuma-like character.

EDIT: The combination of Chi skills and chi-based Imbuements (as new power-ups released in a previous Pyrmid Magazine) surely can make the Martial Artist (with enough points, of course) a decent, combative character. With the unarmed limitation (-50%) and chi (-10%), you can buy some few, useful imbuement skills.

Also, I think it would be interesting to build new Power-ups that requires the Vow (Always fight unarmed) as pre-requisites.

For instance:

Dragon Fist 4 points/level
Pre-requisites: Trained by a Master, Chi Talent 3 and Vow (Always Fight Unarmed)

Your unarmed attacks are stronger than your physical appearance could suggest. Each level (up to Chi Talent level) gives +2 to ST to purpose of unarmed strikes.

Advantages: Striking ST 2 (Only unarmed, -50%; Chi, -10%) [4]

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I always considered to build a power-up like that (and even PMed Kromm for that). I was talking with Kuroshima about this and them this idea was raised.

In any case, I'm not so sure if the Chi Talent cap is a really good idea. Anyway, this is just an idea of how cool can be new power-ups designed for unarmed martial artists.