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Old 05-22-2012, 09:34 PM   #41
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@ Captain Joy - I think your GURPS Star Trek site is most excellent.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:01 PM   #42
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Its at best a legend or tall tale that Captain/Admiral Archer encountered time travelers during his mission.
The very recent events with the Romulan rogue Nero and his shiop from the future made many realize that time travel is likely possible - but only under extreme circumstances.
It can't be very secret, given there are entire species out there whose histories are deeply shaped by time travelers. Of course the major non-human "beneficiaries" of helpful time travelers - the Suliban, the Xindi and now the Vulcans - are all in diaspora from destroyed homeworlds. The proper response to encountering a time traveler may be shoot him before your homeworld explodes.
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Old 05-22-2012, 10:38 PM   #43
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Sorry to have deviated from the OP. Here are some thoughts:
  • A low-point Vow (visit every single planet in the Federation) might be kind of neat.
  • Related, a would-be Lothario might have a similar vow involving sex.
A simpler version might be a character that wants to taste the best local wine or alcoholic drink on every planet they visit

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A vow to taste a seafood dish at every port of call


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Old 05-23-2012, 07:06 AM   #44
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There isn't a 'debate' - Klingons are Klingons. (thlIngan mah!)

In the setting they look the way they did in ST: ENTERPRISE episodes - some of their parents had the affliction and some didn't. Many military Klingons wear the helmets & long leather coats as seen in the J.J. Abrams movie.

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It wasn't just a physical difference (which until Trials and Tribbulations was clearly meant to just be a difference in makeup). The way they presented them was different. TOS Klingons were more like the later Cardassians; Aggressive, but not necessarily a "Warrior" race, and in many ways felt that they were forced to be aggressive and expansionist by their poor economic position. In the films and TNG they got turned into a race which was pretty much obsessed with violence and "honour". It's not that the two are irreconcilable (I think Star Trek VI does it quite well. They come across as a race capabale of proudicing something other than raving bezerkers, but even their politicians look like they could beat you up if they wanted to), but there is a lot of difference. One way I would use to explain it is that during the TOS period the central government is much stronger, and the warriors are less powerful politically. After Chernobyl... wait, Praxis exploded and having to turn to the Federation to save them the Central Government is discredited and weakened. Increasingly the Warrior families get more and more power and eventually it turns into the more feudal-ish system we see in TNG, and the Warrior and "honour" become increasingly central in Klingon politics.

For Starfleet characters there is the problem that many disadvantages are impractical. Starfleet is meant to choose basically the best of the best and have a fairly rigerous training programme. Combine that with "super-medicine" and pretty much all physical disabilities (and all the more serious mental ones) are out unless they really have something to offer that jusifies it, and even then they would be pretty much doing whatever that is. With the improvements in technology some things may be ok with mitigators (ala Gerodie), but with this being set significantly earlier that particularly technology has probably not been invented yet.

Ok, there does seem to still be "the old war wound", so you could have niggling minor disadvantages (or at least they are more niggling with Star Trek medical tech). Major example I can think of is Miles' shoulder from DS9, and that is with even more advanced technology. It would obviously only really be suitable for more experienced characters.

Self-imposed mental disadvantages, social disadvantages and minor mental disadvantages are much more appropriate. Maybe racial intelorances to certain materials? Definetely a feature of Star Trek.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:50 AM   #45
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The Klingon moon Praxis is still around - its the 2250s, that event isn't likely to occur until the 2290s.

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Completely new forms of old disadvantages. Instead of alzheimer's, it's whatever Picard had in the series finale. Instead of schizophrenia it's transporter psychosis. Also, the old show couldn't repair severe radiation/burn damage, so they put you in a box wheelchair.
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Old 05-28-2012, 03:03 PM   #47
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The Klingon moon Praxis is still around - its the 2250s, that event isn't likely to occur until the 2290s.

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Oh, I know... so if you took a similar line with the Klingons as I suggested they would still be in the strong central government/less RAGE beserker/Soviet Union in Space phase.
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Old 05-29-2012, 12:54 AM   #48
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Oh, I know... so if you took a similar line with the Klingons as I suggested they would still be in the strong central government/less RAGE beserker/Soviet Union in Space phase.
It doesn't matter - I was asking for Disadvantages & Quirks that work well with the STAR TREK universe or are setting-specific for it.


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Minor Note: Why whenever I mention "STAR TREK" do many people want to drag in stuff that has no connection the focus of the thread? Or mention Sequel/Spin-off STAR TREK shows that aren't really being discuseed?
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:41 AM   #49
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Minor Note: Why whenever I mention "STAR TREK" do many people want to drag in stuff that has no connection the focus of the thread? Or mention Sequel/Spin-off STAR TREK shows that aren't really being discuseed?
Because you're posting it to a forum on the internet.
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Minor Note: Why whenever I mention "STAR TREK" do many people want to drag in stuff that has no connection the focus of the thread? Or mention Sequel/Spin-off STAR TREK shows that aren't really being discuseed?
I try to stay on topic, however when a blanket statement, such as;

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As far as I know there isn't an 'existing list' - SJG doesn't have the ST license....
is made I feel compelled to mention GURPS:Prime Directive, for newer people who may be reading the topic and be unaware of it. I do understand how people may be disappointed in it since it is based on TOS/TAS without Kirk, Spock, and McCoy et. al. and can not cover the newer Trek that most people are familiar with, but it does exsit.
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