Cult membership card and Curse! Dragged Off To Snarkham Asylum

[Ash Plissken]

Originally Posted by backstabby

I had the cult membership card and my friend played Curse! Dragged Off To Snarkham Asylum on me. I said I was not a cultist, so I couldn't lose the cult membership card (which is an item anyway), but I also said that I was a cultist, so I couldn't become one. Can I do this?

I don't know off the top of my head what the exact effects of the curse are, but if the gist is "Suffer X effect if you are a Cultist, and Y effect if you are not," then I would say you have to pick one effect or the other, and if one does not apply, then you have to take the other.

[backstabby]

Originally Posted by Ash Plissken

I don't know off the top of my head what the exact effects of the curse are, but if the gist is "Suffer X effect if you are a Cultist, and Y effect if you are not," then I would say you have to pick one effect or the other, and if one does not apply, then you have to take the other.

Still, if this is true (which i'm not sure it is, see forum post above) then choosing cultist wouldn't do anything since you don't have a cultist card to discard.

[Ash Plissken]

Originally Posted by backstabby

Still, if this is true (which i'm not sure it is, see forum post above) then choosing cultist wouldn't do anything since you don't have a cultist card to discard.

Hence "one does not apply," hence "you have to take the other," just like with Bad Stuff. At least that's how I see it.

From what's been said, I gather that this curse gives you the cultist class if you do not have it, and takes it away if you do. Clearly the intent of the curse is to have some effect on anyone whether they have the class or not, and I don't think the CMC is intended to make you completely immune to this curse.

Confusion over for what purposes you can use the CMC to count as a Cultist, and for what purposes you have to actually have the Cultist class, is why I hate the CMC.

[backstabby]

Originally Posted by Ash Plissken

From what's been said, I gather that this curse gives you the cultist class if you do not have it, and takes it away if you do. Clearly the intent of the curse is to have some effect on anyone whether they have the class or not, and I don't think the CMC is intended to make you completely immune to this curse.

It may not be intended to make you immune to certain curses, but it is a pleasant side affect if it does. Can we please get an official ruling on this?

[Andrew Hackard]

Official ruling: the CMC cannot let you act as a Cultist and not a Cultist for the precise same effect. If you're resolving a Curse that has different effects for Cultists and non-Cultists, you have to pick one or the other.

[Bampop]

This doesn't answer the original question, though. If you decide you are a Cultist for that particular curse, would you lose the CMC even though it's an item and not a Cultist Class card?

[Andrew Hackard]

Originally Posted by Bampop

This doesn't answer the original question, though.

Ah, now I see the quandary. Easy answer: if you use the CMC to claim you are a Cultist, you have to lose your Cultist status -- which means, in this case, you discard the CMC. If you do not use the CMC to claim you are a Cultist, then you become a Cultist. (Which, at least, allows you to keep the CMC, even though it's currently useless for you.)