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Old 05-22-2012, 10:20 AM   #1
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...As portrayed humans generally have xenophillia, at least for the series after ToS...
Nope That's just Kirk.

Although I would make Racism towards other species a taboo trait for ST humans. It may exist within humanity, but such individuals wouldn't make it to Star Fleet anyway.
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Old 05-22-2012, 12:42 PM   #2
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Nope That's just Kirk.

Although I would make Racism towards other species a taboo trait for ST humans. It may exist within humanity, but such individuals wouldn't make it to Star Fleet anyway.
Not at that time. Spock repeatedly ran into people with at least a quirk-level intolerance of Vulcans. It was a minority among the crew as a whole, but certainly not a taboo trait.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:07 PM   #3
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Not at that time. Spock repeatedly ran into people with at least a quirk-level intolerance of Vulcans. It was a minority among the crew as a whole, but certainly not a taboo trait.
Agreed. I'd even go so far as to say the things like Intolerance (Tellurite) for an Andorian character and vice versa would be appropriate, even for those members that are in Starfleet. Most Starfleet ships/colonies/worlds are mostly segregated. One could easily serve happily and productively within Starfleet with such a disadvantage.
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Old 05-22-2012, 02:21 PM   #4
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Agreed. I'd even go so far as to say the things like Intolerance (Tellurite) for an Andorian character and vice versa would be appropriate, even for those members that are in Starfleet. Most Starfleet ships/colonies/worlds are mostly segregated. One could easily serve happily and productively within Starfleet with such a disadvantage.
In fact at that time, Starfleet was specifically an Earth Service...which is why it was a big deal to give the Vulcans one of their ships.
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Old 05-22-2012, 03:06 PM   #5
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In fact at that time, Starfleet was specifically an Earth Service...which is why it was a big deal to give the Vulcans one of their ships.
Are you sure that isn't SFB canon?
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Old 05-22-2012, 03:09 PM   #6
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Are you sure that isn't SFB canon?
The flagship was entirely human except for one part vulcan. That sounds horribly racist if not a feature of being a human run government.
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Old 05-22-2012, 03:12 PM   #7
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The flagship was entirely human except for one part vulcan. That sounds horribly racist if not a feature of being a human run government.
That also was NOT true in the Abrams movie - there are LOTS of non-human Starfleet officers & crew shown in the movie...more than 9 different types seen on the ENTERPRISE. (and in SF academy scenes)

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Old 05-22-2012, 03:18 PM   #8
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Are you sure that isn't SFB canon?
No, but if you check Memory Alpha's entry on Starfleet, it states:
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UESPA was mentioned early in the Original Series, before producers finally settled upon "Starfleet" and the UFP as the Enterprise crew's operating authorities. It was found in background details in Star Trek: Enterprise and on the dedication plaque of the USS Enterprise-B in Star Trek Generations. UESPA was found on the United Earth Starfleet seal seen in "Demons", implying that the UE Starfleet was a division of UESPA or vice versa. It was never mentioned in Star Trek: The Next Generation. The nature of the relationship between UESPA and the Federation Starfleet was never established.

It is unclear why the fledgling Federation would utilize so many of Earth's space agencies as major contributors to its own Starfleet, especially considering both Vulcan's and Andoria's superior military and exploratory operations. One theory is paranoia. By placing the fledgling Starfleet in the hands of what was arguably the technologically and militarily weakest species, a balance remained amongst the remaining three powers, with none of the four having a significant advantage over the other three. Another explanation might be that, early on, planetary authorities operated inside of yet simultaneously independent of Starfleet, as is the case with the relationship between the European Space Agency and its national members. Whatever the reason, it is clear that – by the 23rd century – Earth had become the military backbone of the Federation. Even though less technologically advanced than other members, United Earth was nonetheless a major player in the Federation (for example, acting as its capital) and no doubt had much influence, for example the construction of Federation ships in the Sol system would have probably used UESPA and Starfleet facilities, at first, which gave it an advantage.
Of course, that's one of those things that could probably be ignored...

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Old 05-22-2012, 12:46 PM   #9
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Nope That's just Kirk.
Erm. Even if you're only counting the original series? Spock is half-human; some human found some vulcan sexually attractive enough engage in enough activity so as to successfully reproduce with one.

I'd say it isn't just Kirk.
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Erm. Even if you're only counting the original series? Spock is half-human; some human found some vulcan sexually attractive enough engage in enough activity so as to successfully reproduce with one.

I'd say it isn't just Kirk.
Some things I read said that Spock was a genetic experiment. That at least almost made sense from a realism view.
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