[Star Wars] Astrogation

[Phaelen Bleux]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

Yeeeah. Nobody has that much information about the galaxy.

But in Attack of the Clones, Obi Wan was all bummed that the Jedi database had actually missed one planet in the whole of the galaxy. Sound like he expects the Jedi database to have that much info!

Originally Posted by Walrus

What don't you like in Navigation (Space) and Navigation (Hyperspace)?
And do you just stick to use 3e terms (M/P skills) or use them actually?

Sorry. I do still play 3e. But I think the question is the same. . .

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Refplace

Sure but the post I replied to was using Astromechs as a -2

I'd say that plotting a new course without a navigation computer (not an Astromech droid) gets the full No Equipment penalties. All Astromechs do is save preplotted courses (or maybe make the last minute corrections needed to make those courses current).

Originally Posted by Phaelen Bleux

But in Attack of the Clones, Obi Wan was all bummed that the Jedi database had actually missed one planet in the whole of the galaxy. Sound like he expects the Jedi database to have that much info!

Unlike the usual problems of Star Wars not making much sense, this is actually trivial, IMO. Astronomical data isn't the same thing as Astronavigational data. If Astronavigation must account for all of these random variables and must be recalculated prior to jump then there really isn't a problem.

[Phantasm]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

All fighters with hyperspace have Astromechs.

Not true! The Rebel A-Wing lacks an astromech and is hyperspace-capable. The Imperial StarWing, TIE Advanced/x1 (Vader's fighter), TIE Defender, and Missile Boat also lack an astromech and can traverse hyperspace.

Not sure if those are calculated in the cockpit or just stored, though.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by tbrock1031

Not true! The Rebel A-Wing lacks an astromech and is hyperspace-capable.

I guess so, huh. More inconsistencies, I guess. The A-Wing is newer, though, so maybe it just has built-in capability?

[Refplace]

I think the easy way to handle this is just a case of Computer Operation.
Pretty common skill I would think and defaintely among pilots and then the better a computer you have the better and faster you can compute a course.
Now if your trying to do it without a computer that would be a M/VH skill and would get math talent bonuses and work faster with Lightning Calculator or Intuitive mathematician.
A Droid astromech would have the skill and advantages but a pilot would not need them, just his computer Op skill if using a computer rather then ordering an AI to do it.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by vierasmarius

If Astrogation can be done with just a hyperspace chart and scientific calculator, then Intuitive Mathematics would count as basic equipment. If it's considerably more involved (requiring a computer to model the projected path and all nearby bodies in 4D, for example) then IM isn't sufficient, being Improvised Equipment at best.


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Intuitive Mathematician outrates a scicntific calculator by several orders of magnitude. IM is capable of doing engineeering design work rathert hasn jsut simple (or even not quite simple) calculations.

Also, by example of AI characters and descriptions of how to do them, if you have IM, Photogrpahic Memory, Absolute Time sense and possibly Enhanced Time Sense you _are_ a computer either literally or figuartively.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Phaelen Bleux

But in Attack of the Clones, Obi Wan was all bummed that the Jedi database had actually missed one planet in the whole of the galaxy. Sound like he expects the Jedi database to have that much info!
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OK, assume one kilobyte per system. 180 billion kilobytes is what, 180 terabytes? Note that this would not be enough information to get to all them. For that you'd have to also have every rogue planet in interstellar space.

[Refplace]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

OK, assume one kilobyte per system. 180 billion kilobytes is what, 180 terabytes? Note that this would not be enough information to get to all them. For that you'd have to also have every rogue planet in interstellar space.

1KB also not much detail.

[Fred Brackin]

Originally Posted by Refplace

1KB also not much detail.

I recently told a TL10 characyter that his wristwatch had a storage capacity of 1 petabyte or 1,000,000 GB, I think we can handle more than 1 KB per system.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Refplace

1KB also not much detail.

Well yeah, but all he wants is a list of all the planets.