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Old 03-22-2012, 11:15 PM   #32
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Default Re: Cyberpunk: Cash vs. Points Implications

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Originally Posted by Daigoro View Post
You know, I was quite unaware of this trait, had to go looking for it. But how do you calculate if a gun's too big for a Weapon Mount, just go off nominal Arm ST? The limitation says it's incompatible with Weak, but that would seem appropriate for a Pistol-only Weapon Mount or something similar.
The Weapon Mount trait itself doesn't specify. In UT, Bionic Hand and Arm Mounts have capacities of 1/2 BL and full BL, respectively, though they are priced the same.

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And Weapon Mount doesn't imply concealment, so you'd need Payload for that anyway.
Yeah, that would make sense. Payload is notably lacking from the aforementioned UT cybernetics, despite the implication that they can be concealed.

Maybe instead of limiting what weapons can be mounted based on weight (which I can only find reference to in UT, not in the Basic entry for Weapon Mount) it should instead be based on the MinST of the weapon, with the assumption that anything heavier than that won't fit anyways. Also, for normally two-handed weapons (ie, rifles) you'd need to take two Weapon Mounts, or brace it with another limb, else you'd suffer the normal penalties for firing a rifle one-handed (Tactical Shooting p13). I do like the suggestion of requiring Payload if the weapon is concealed, though that adds quite a lot of expense (10cp per BL lbs) and doesn't match the assumptions from UT and TS.

Actually, looking through TS:Changing Times, they seem to use Weapon Mount and Payload interchangeably - WM for small weapons, and Payload for large ones or individual ordinance. For example, the UCAV has a Payload that is typically loaded with a 15mm emag cannon plus ammo, but doesn't have a Weapon Mount. This means I was wrong before in my assumption that WM was necessary to aim and fire a weapon stored as payload...

So I guess Weapon Mount should be used for anything carried and fired "externally" (and thus limited by MinST rather than overall bulk, though it does add to encumbrance) and Payload for anything carried "internally" (and its weight doesn't add to encumbrance).

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