Ruling combat involving Wandering Monster with Wannabe Vampire against a Cleric

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Originally Posted by LordSnah42

TY very much MuchkinMan! Your ruling makes me feel warm and fuzzy. Unfortunately, I saw it the other way, which made all the other cards in question make sense. So now, I'm left with what is a weakness exactly? The Frost Giant reads: Any fire or flame does double damage against it. That doesnt say weakness, but sounds just like a weakness.

It is a weakness, yes. And it applies to the group. For example, the Frost Giant has a level of 15. Let's say you somehow had two items that both provide a +8 fire-based bonus (these items don't exist, but it's an example). Even though either item when doubled is enough to kill the monster, you will still double both bonuses (i.e., the total from these two items would be +32) if you are fighting something else as well. Your buddies can't claim that you can only use one item against the Frost Giant and the other item against the other monster as the group has a weakness against fire for the time being. This is similar to the immunity ruling as you can't choose to use the fire weapon against a creature that isn't normally immune to fire if there is a monster in the battle that is immune.

The Large Angry Chicken reads: Fried chicken is delicious. Gain an extra level if you defeat it with fire or flame. That doesnt really sound like a weakness, but I thought it was.

It is a weakness too. If you used a fire weapon or attack in the battle, you draw an extra treasure for the group. You don't draw an extra treasure per monster.

And if you were facing the Large Angry Chicken and the Frost Giant and you had one fire based item, the bonus would be doubled and you'd get the extra level. Nobody would be able to argue that you need to choose which one you use the item against.

Maybe even a clarification on weaknesses or strengths that WOULD carry over to other monsters, 'cuz this thread also states that a monster gaining a +5 against someone would just be that one monster in combat, not others that may have been wandered in. Maybe a guideline on these could be produced kind of like what was done with whats allowed for the Cheat! card? I stand corrected also on my original thought of the wife saying booga booga and getting the level. The wannabe vampire states that you dont gain the level.

It would be hard to come up with a definition that will cover every monster (although it would be great to be proven wrong). The general rules seem to be that things that force a creature out of the battle are not shared by everything, and weaknesses apply to the group and thus don't stack for each monster.