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Old 01-29-2012, 03:36 PM   #25
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Default Re: [Naruto] Byakugan

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Originally Posted by Fred Brackin View Post
Arrnor can be removed by even a 25 pt Man at Arms once the target is immobilised. Eyes can only be plucked out quickly and accurately by very high cp shinobi who have mastered the Eye Pluck Technique (see MA. 72 and note that it requires TBAM and starts at -10).

Really, you can not claim your body parts as gadgets even if some other character could rake them and (eventually) use them. You don't get pts back because a vampire could drink your blood.

Having crazy people hunt you for your body parts is a fine Disad but
Eye Pluck is a technique for ripping out an eye in combat. It says nothing about being better at pulling it out when the opponent is unconscious, or not being able to do so to an immobilized opponent, or that the technique will make you better at pulling the eye out without damaging the eye.

Anyone can realistically be at least decent at plucking out another person's eyes given a few minutes or so, in such a way as to prevent eye damage, on an unconscious or paralyzed opponent. No special technique or advantage required. Surgical skill or technique might improve the odds of doing it without more harm than necessary to the victim, and to ensure the eye remains okay.

If a human character began play as a human that had lost their eyes prior to the campaign, and started play with a set of bionic eyes (as in a sci-fi setting), I would argue they could take Gadget limitations on them. What's the difference here? They're parts that confer special abilities, can be removed, and then used by the jerk that took them from you. No difference between sci-fi bionic super-eyes and this Naruto concept.

I would also argue for technical reasons that Vision-Based is not a perfect fit here. It's technically possible to have IT:No Eyes, which means you either don't have eyes, or your eyes are not required for vision. Someone with that advantage might be able to see somehow without eyes, but need their existing Byakugan eyes to access these chakra abilities. They could also have an Extra Head, one with normal eyes, one with Byakugan eyes. Again, in either case, just Vision-Based would allow such characters to retain their special abilities, by RAW, even if they ended up losing their Byakugan eyes (through destruction or theft). Obviously, I wouldn't allow normal eyes to be considered Gadgets, because in RAW the sense of Vision is not an advantage but the lack of a disadvantage. Byakugan eyes and their like are different.
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