Ritual Path Magic

[blacksmith]

Originally Posted by Langy

IQ! generally isn't an allowed advantage - it's +20 points in attributes, but -10 in disadvantages, but Hunters are generally maxed-out in their disadvantage cap already, so they can't take IQ! at all. Further, IQ! is way too cheap, so it shouldn't be allowed even if the disad cap wasn't in place.

PU3 Talents deals with this and is what made me more comfortable with a talent for this.

[Langy]

Originally Posted by Lamech

The only way to bar IQ!, would be the banning of lowering both will and per, and there are a lot of archtypes of characters that are smart, but do not have extraordinary willpower and perception.

IQ! takes up disadvantage cap space. Thus, it's effectively not allowed, since all Hunters already have their disadvantage cap maxed out.

[Lamech]

Yes, in one very specific system if you are using templates, in fact if your using templates the bigger concern will be the fact that it isn't on the list. I'm fully aware that MH templates do not allow a great many things. Obviously, I'm talking cases where it isn't barred by template. This thread isn't limited to just MH, let alone MH only using the templates; note how he talked about "other variant magical systems" at the very start.
(Actually the witch template allows for -2 will and -2 perception, also I've always thought it silly that the disadvantage limit includes things secondary stat scores which are above average.)

[blacksmith]

Originally Posted by Langy

IQ! takes up disadvantage cap space. Thus, it's effectively not allowed, since all Hunters already have their disadvantage cap maxed out.

No they don't. They have 20 more points.

[Langy]

Originally Posted by blacksmith

No they don't. They have 20 more points.

What? Where'd you get that idea?

[blacksmith]

Originally Posted by Langy

What? Where'd you get that idea?

I forgot about the 15 points in the motivational lense and thought it was only 50 points on the templates.

I still thought it was 400 70 5.