Weapon Master vs Trained by a Master

[kirbwarrior]

Originally Posted by aesir23

45 points. I'm suggesting that Unarmed should be considered just another weapon.

Or for 20 points you can do the same with a Quarterstaff PLUS a damage bonus of +2 per Die.

The guy who pays 20 for Weapon Master (Any One Weapon) beats the snot out of the guy who pays 15 points for Weapon Master (Unarmed) 90% of the time.The other 10% of the time, it's because he doesn't have his weapon. ;)

Would Unarmed gives generous defaults also?

For a specific account, would Ninja Weapons be 35, or pushed up to 40 since ninjas do fight unarmed?

[aesir23]

Originally Posted by kirbwarrior

Would Unarmed gives generous defaults also?

Well, since Unarmed skills don't really have defaults, this wouldn't apply. But I'd say that Weapon Master (Unarmed) would give it's bonuses to Unarmed attacks using Dex.

Originally Posted by kirbwarrior

For a specific account, would Ninja Weapons be 35, or pushed up to 40 since ninjas do fight unarmed?

In this specific case I'd say that adding Unarmed to Ninja Weapons would still be a Medium group.

There are other cases where Unarmed might push a group of weapons into a bigger category.

[kirbwarrior]

Originally Posted by aesir23

Well, since Unarmed skills don't really have defaults, this wouldn't apply. But I'd say that Weapon Master (Unarmed) would give it's bonuses to Unarmed attacks using Dex.

Kinda forgot that...

Originally Posted by aesir23

In this specific case I'd say that adding Unarmed to Ninja Weapons would still be a Medium group.

There are other cases where Unarmed might push a group of weapons into a bigger category.

I can definitely see that being true, but it seems we are assuming Unarmed is one weapon, and should apply things accordingly

[aesir23]

Originally Posted by kirbwarrior

I can definitely see that being true, but it seems we are assuming Unarmed is one weapon, and should apply things accordingly

Yep, that's my hypothetical position.

I could certainly imagine borderline cases where 1 more weapon is all it takes to push a category from medium to large. Small to medium even more often.