[MH] RPM Creating Things

[Kuroshima]

Rev, convince the higher ups and release this as MH5 already ;)

[Kalzazz]

RPK's system is much more lenient, as it doesn't make the higher value items quite as impossible, even though it does make lower end items tricksier

[Kalzazz]

Can you cast a spell to give you a bonus to Mechanic (item in question) or is that also precluded under 'can't use magic to get better at magic'?

[PK]

Originally Posted by starslayer

Wow- you were MUCH harsher then I was for the sliding scale of cost/penalty.

Bear in mind that was strictly off the top of my head. GURPS doesn't really have an official set of "quick and dirty" rules for assigning penalties to craft rolls, because there are so many factors and variables and all that. (LTC3 touches on this, but it instead applies longer times to harder crafts, which isn't directly applicable here.) If you want something a bit less harsh, you could turn my 1/2/5 progression into a 1/3/10 one:

$10 = 0
$30 = -1
$100 = -2
$300 = -3
$1,000 = -4
$3,000 = -5
$10,000 = -6

Though that feels too lenient to me. I prefer my first progression.

Originally Posted by Kalzazz

Can you cast a spell to give you a bonus to Mechanic (item in question) or is that also precluded under 'can't use magic to get better at magic'?

Good question. I'd say that the craft roll is not part of the magic spell -- it's just a way for the GM to see how well you were picturing the item's details in your head. So you could give yourself a Mechanic or Engineer bonus, yes. That might even be a nice way to balance out the power of a specific "Create" spell for an expensive item -- add in the spell effect and bestowed bonus to cancel out the huge penalty for imagining it properly.

[Langy]

Originally Posted by Rev. Pee Kitty

Bear in mind that was strictly off the top of my head. GURPS doesn't really have an official set of "quick and dirty" rules for assigning penalties to craft rolls, because there are so many factors and variables and all that. (LTC3 touches on this, but it instead applies longer times to harder crafts, which isn't directly applicable here.) If you want something a bit less harsh, you could turn my 1/2/5 progression into a 1/3/10 one:

$10 = 0
$30 = -1
$100 = -2
$300 = -3
$1,000 = -4
$3,000 = -5
$10,000 = -6

Though that feels too lenient to me. I prefer my first progression.



Good question. I'd say that the craft roll is not part of the magic spell -- it's just a way for the GM to see how well you were picturing the item's details in your head. So you could give yourself a Mechanic or Engineer bonus, yes. That might even be a nice way to balance out the power of a specific "Create" spell for an expensive item -- add in the spell effect and bestowed bonus to cancel out the huge penalty for imagining it properly.

I'd just move it up a few steps, rather than change the progression entirely. A penalty to make a completely normal, ordinary, probably-not-all-that-Hunter-worthy item seems a bit much. So something like:

MOD / ITEM COST ("Up to...")
-0 $50
-1 $100
-2 $200
-3 $500
-4 $1,000
-5 $2,000
-6 $5,000
etc