[D20 to GURPS] Burnt Offerings Conversions

[Landwalker]

Originally Posted by Dragondog

If you read the descriptions of Follow-up and Blood Agent, you'll see that both of them are "penetration modifiers," as I mentioned earlier. And a trait can only have one "penetration modifiers."

I understand that the rules prohibit it from flying. I don't understand why the rules prohibit it from flying.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Landwalker

I understand that the rules prohibit it from flying. I don't understand why the rules prohibit it from flying.

Already posted the link, but make sure to check this FAQ entry for the explanation.

[Landwalker]

I did see that, and from what I can tell, it's essentially saying "Follow-up and Blood Agent can both be applied to the same attack. There's just no discount for doing so."

I spent last night working on the Vargouille, and after a great deal of frustration, I think I finally have, in the Vargouille Kiss special ability, the first "the-hell-with-it-hand-wave" that I'm not even going to properly convert. The Vargouille's paralyzing shriek and poisonous bites, while equally frustrating in their own rights, did eventually manage to get some conversion. More on this later after I get it properly written up.

[Kuroshima]

I don't remember how the Vargouille Kiss special ability precisely works, but shouldn't Dominance or Infectious Attack be enough? I mean, do the newly created Vargouilles have to obey their creator?

[Landwalker]

Originally Posted by Kuroshima

I don't remember how the Vargouille Kiss special ability precisely works, but shouldn't Dominance or Infectious Attack be enough? I mean, do the newly created Vargouilles have to obey their creator?

They don't, and at first my thought was to just call it an Infectious Attack, although it really isn't a disadvantage for them ("Oh no I created another me how absolutely dreadful!"), plus it's something they use voluntarily, unlike, for example, lycanthropy. It's basically the Vargouille's method of reproduction.

Here's the d20 version of the ability, from the Pathfinder SRD:

Originally Posted by Pathfinder SRD

A vargouille can kiss a helpless target by making a successful melee touch attack (this provokes attacks of opportunity). A kissed opponent must succeed on a DC 16 Fortitude save or begin a terrible transformation that changes the creature into a vargouille within 24 hours (and often much sooner; roll 1d6 separately for each phase of the transformation). First, over a period of 1d6 hours, all the victim's hair falls out. Within another 1d6 hours thereafter, the ears grow into leathery wings, tentacles sprout on the chin and scalp, and the teeth become long, pointed fangs. During the next 1d6 hours, the victim takes Intelligence drain and Charisma drain equal to 1 point per hour (to a minimum of 3). The transformation is complete 1d6 hours thereafter, when the victim's head breaks free of the body (which promptly dies) and becomes a vargouille. This transformation's progress is paused by sunlight or any light spell of 3rd level or higher, but stopping the transformation requires remove disease or a similar effect. The transformation is a disease effect. The save DC is Constitution-based and includes a +4 racial bonus.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Landwalker

They don't, and at first my thought was to just call it an Infectious Attack, although it really isn't a disadvantage for them ("Oh no I created another me how absolutely dreadful!"), plus it's something they use voluntarily, unlike, for example, lycanthropy. It's basically the Vargouille's method of reproduction.

Here's the d20 version of the ability, from the Pathfinder SRD:

I would still make it an Infectious Attack, or at least use those mechanics.

If the newly created vargouille isn't going to turn against it's creator, then the infectious attack is probably nothing more than a quirk.

[Landwalker]

Alright, here is the train-wreck that is the Vargouille. Creepy, bat-winged, disembodied head and all.

D20 Information

Spoiler:  

Vargouille (NE Small Outsider—Evil, Extraplanar) CR 2

Size: Small
Initiative: +1
Speed: Fly, 30 ft. (Good)
Senses: Darkvision 60 feet; Perception +7

HP: 19 (3d10+3)
AC: 15 (Touch 12, Flat-Footed 14)
(+1 Dex, +3 Natural, +1 Size)

Fortitude: +4
Reflex: +4
Willpower: +2

Strength: 10
Dexterity: 13
Constitution: 13
Intelligence: 5
Wisdom: 12
Charisma: 8

Base Attack: +3
Melee: Bite +5 (1d4 plus poison
Ranged: None

Feats: Skill Focus (Stealth), Weapon Finesse
Skills: Fly +13, Intimidate +5, Perception +7, Stealth +8

Poisonous Bite (Su): Injury, Fort DC 12. Damage caused by a vargouille bite can only be healed with magic if the spellcaster succeeds on a DC 20 caster level check.

Shriek (Su): Instead of biting, a vargouille can open its distended mouth to shriek. Those within 60 feet (except other vargouilles) who hear the shriek and can clearly see the creature must succeed on a DC 12 Fortitude save or be paralyzed for 2d4 rounds, or until the monster attacks them, goes out of range, or leaves their sight. A creature that successfully saves cannot be affected again by the same vargouille's shriek for 24 hours. The save DC is Constitution-based.

Vargouille Kiss (Su): A vargouille can kiss a helpless target by making a successful melee touch attack (this provokes attacks of opportunity). A kissed opponent must succeed on a DC 16 Fortitude save or begin a terrible transformation that changes the creature into a vargouille within 24 hours (and often much sooner; roll 1d6 separately for each phase of the transformation). First, over a period of 1d6 hours, all the victim's hair falls out. Within another 1d6 hours thereafter, the ears grow into leathery wings, tentacles sprout on the chin and scalp, and the teeth become long, pointed fangs. During the next 1d6 hours, the victim takes Intelligence drain and Charisma drain equal to 1 point per hour (to a minimum of 3). The transformation is complete 1d6 hours thereafter, when the victim's head breaks free of the body (which promptly dies) and becomes a vargouille. This transformation's progress is paused by sunlight or any light spell of 3rd level or higher, but stopping the transformation requires remove disease or a similar effect. The transformation is a disease effect. The save DC is Constitution-based and includes a +4 racial bonus.


Notes
— Vargouilles are a bit larger than a human head, and their wing-span can range from 15 to 35 inches.
— Vargouilles are not native to the Material Plane and, as such, are subject to magical banishment. Even vargouilles created on the Material Plane are still considered extraplanar creatures.

GURPS Information

Spoiler:  

Vargouille (XXX Points)

SM: -2†

ST: 10
DX: 11
IQ: 6
HT: 11

HP: 15
FP: 11

Will: 11
Per: 12

Basic Speed: 5.50
Basic Move: 5

Dodge: 8

Advantages: Damaged Resistance 2 (Tough Skin); Dark Vision; Flight (Winged)*; Poisonous Bite; Shriek; Teeth (Fangs)

Poisonous Bite: Toxic Attack, 1 point (Follow-Up, Bite +0%; No Wounding -50%; Side Effect: Unhealing (Only wounds caused by the bite attack, -20%) +64%; Extended Duration: Permanent—Requires Magical Healing at -4 +150%) [4]

Shriek: Affliction 1, Paralysis +150% (Area of Effect: 16 Yards +200%; Emanation +20%; Sense-Based: Hearing +150%; Reduced Duration: 1 second per MoF -35%; Terminal Condition: Ends if the vargouille attacks, leaves the victim's sight, or leaves a 16-yard radius -20%) [53]

Disadvantages: Appearance (Monstrous)

Quirks: Infectious Attack (Vargouille Kiss: Requires 6 seconds and a helpless victim; transformation takes 5d hours; the Cure Disease spell (Magic pg. 91) or a comparable elixir will stop the transformation and, provided the transformation is incomplete, reverse any intermediate effects)

Skills: Aerobatics 12; Brawling 13; Intimidation 12; Stealth 14

Attacks
Bite [Skill 13, No Parry; 1d-2 imp; Poisonous Bite follow-up]

Equipment
None


Notes
* In d20, a Vargouille has Fly skill at +13. The DC to Hover is 15. This seems close enough that the Cannot Hover limitation was unwarranted. Besides, look at the ugly bastards. I can't exactly see them "perching" on anything.
† Although Goblins are also Small, but are only SM -1, the exact dimensions of the average vargouille make it clearly SM -2. Besides, the thing has terrible defenses, so it needs all the help it can get.
— The way I'm reading it, the Poisonous Bite as I currently have it written will cause Unhealing to apply to all of a PC's injuries, not just those inflicted by the bite. I'm on the fence between saying "Eh, okay," on the one hand or slapping something like "Accessibility: Only on Vargouille Bite wounds -40%" on it on the other hand.

[Dragondog]

Regarding the Wrathspawn and its ability to see in the dark, Dark Vision (Color Vision +20%) costs 4 points less than Dark Vision and Night Vision 9, but as this is an NPC, it might not be important right now.

[Landwalker]

Originally Posted by Dragondog

Regarding the Wrathspawn and its ability to see in the dark, Dark Vision (Color Vision +20%) costs 4 points less than Dark Vision and Night Vision 9, but as this is an NPC, it might not be important right now.

Ah, that's a good call. I'll make the adjustment. Thanks.

[Dragondog]

Originally Posted by Kuroshima

I would still make it an Infectious Attack, or at least use those mechanics.

If the newly created vargouille isn't going to turn against it's creator, then the infectious attack is probably nothing more than a quirk.

How does this make Infectious Attack worth less? As I read it, you either have control or you don't. What the newly changed creature does, unless controlled, is up to it and shouldn't change the cost of Infectious Attack.