[D20 to GURPS] Burnt Offerings Conversions

[Landwalker]

Damn you and your successful salesmanship. I hope you're getting a commission.

By the looks of it, the Combination Potion (with some sort of "Temporary Disadvantage" modifier and Reduced Duration) would probably work out well. Maybe:

Potion of the Champion
Effects: +1d ST, +1d DX, Bravery
Side Effects: On the Edge (CR 12) [-15%]
Duration: 1 minute [-35%]
Cost: $540


I looked at the Bardic Song stuff on DF11.20, as well. With the exception of "Based on Per," it looks like what I was shooting for originally (with the Emanation thing), as least for the Beneficial Song. The sample songs will definitely be helpful when coming up with other songs, as well. Thanks for the recommendation—looks like it'll be a good pick-up.

[gmjasongurps]

so what's next on your conversion plate?

[Landwalker]

Well, I've been out of town all week on a business trip (bleh), so I haven't been able to do much converting.

Since it doesn't look like the Potion is getting much more discussion, once I get home tomorrow night, I'll start in on the next item on the list. I'm going to skip Gresgurt, since he's just a Goblin Commando with the Knife skill and no potion for the most part, and move on to the first human opponent the PCs encounter, Tsuto Kaijitsu (what, you thought this thread wasn't going to have spoilers? Edward Norton is Tyler Durden, by the way), the slippery half-elf who is at least partially to blame for the fact that the first three enemy types the PCs encounter are all goblins.

In d20 terms, Tsuto is a Rogue 1 / Monk 2. Unfortunately, being unarmored in GURPS is a lot more severe than being unarmored in d20, and fighting unarmed is even more of a problem (although Tsuto prefers fighting at range with a longbow, the d20 version carries no melee weapons and relies on the monk class's unarmed strikes and flurry of blows ability). As such, Tsuto may end up being less of a "conversion" and more of a "rebuilding."

[Landwalker]

As with the Commando, Tsuto Kaijitsu has a magical item that I would like to nail down before going whole-hog with the conversion.

D20 Item

A Ring of Protection +1. This gives a +1 deflection bonus to AC. It is always on, and applies to Touch AC and Flat-Footed AC as well.


The issue is that I don't have a lot of experience or familiarity with how GURPS magic items are assumed to work or how they are "built" by a GM, so below is what I think the GURPS conversion of this ring would be:

GURPS Item

Ring of Deflection +1.
This is a simple metal ring with a Deflect (+1) Enchantment (Magic, pg. 67), conferring a +1 DB against all attacks. The ring is always on and requires no energy or fatigue investment in order to function.
Energy Cost to Create: 100
Market Value: $2,000 (Second-Hand, M.21)

My understanding is also that, if the ring is struck, it is likely to be destroyed, owing to its small size and, likely, minimal DR (I figure that a normal ring is unlikely to have more than 2 HP and 2 DR). Of course, it would be very difficult to deliberately strike the ring, in any case.

In d20, magic items are customarily difficult to just destroy, although they are (save the major artifacts) destructible one way or another. I'm not sure how to add that quality to a ring such as this, but considering the difficulty of hitting the ring in the first place, that may be a non-issue.

[Dragondog]

You could use the rules regarding partial armor in LT and UT to figure out the weight/cost/DR for armor that only covers as much as a ring does.

I'd guess somewhere close to 0.05% of full body coverage for weight and cost. Light Style for 2/3 of weight, cost, and DR. And Stylish Cut, for x4 price.

Lets say we're using Jousting Mail from LT. That's starting with DR 6, $1,500, and 30 lbs.

With the above formula we get:
DR: 6*2/3 = 4
Cost: 1500*0.0005*2/3*4 = $2
Weight: 30*0.0005*2/3= 0.01 lbs

If we allow for heavy plate, we get:
DR: 9*2/3 = 6
Cost: 4000*0.0005*2/3*4 ~ $5
Weight: 32*0.0005*2/3 ~ 0.01067 lbs

Not to say anything about the modifiers in DF1. Or the fact that you can use magic on the ring to protect itself too.

And by size it's at least -11 to hit.

[Kuroshima]

Don't over-complicate things. DF8 gives you prices for rings of diverse materials. For example, a silver ring weights 0.15 lbs and costs $115. It's so light, that I would say that any damage destroys it, but it's so small, that hitting it should be almost impossible, unless you aim for it (calculate the SM).

Oh, and Deflect+1 is a good match for a +1 AC ring.

[Landwalker]

Alright, here he is—the first "PC-race" enemy encountered by the players. Tsuto Kaijitsu was a tough conversion that I ended up playing pretty loose, thanks to the D20 version's Monk class levels.

D20 Information

Spoiler:  

Tsuto Kaijitsu (Half-elf Rogue 1/Monk 2)

Size: Medium
Initiative: +2 (+2 Dex)
Speed: 30 ft.
Senses: Low-Light Vision; Listen +3, Spot +3

HP: 12 (1d6+2d8-3)
AC: 16 (Touch 16, Flat-Footed 13)
(+2 Dex, +1 Deflection, +2 Wis, +1 Dodge)

Fortitude: +2
Reflex: +7
Willpower: +5; +7 vs. enchantment

Strength: 12
Dexterity: 15
Constitution: 8
Intelligence: 13
Wisdom: 14
Charisma: 10

Base Attack: +1
Melee: Unarmed Strike +3 (1d6+1)
or Flurry of Blows +1/+1 (1d6+1)
Ranged: Composite Shortbow +3 (1d6+1/x3)

Feats: Deflect Arrows, Dodge, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse
Skills: Balance +4; Bluff +5, Diplomacy +8, Disable Device +6; Disguise +4 (+6 acting); Gather Information +6; Intimidate +6; Jump +3; Open Lock +6; Perform (Wind Instruments) +6; Search +5; Tumble +8

Other Abilities
Sneak Attack: Tsuto deals an extra +1d6 on a successful sneak attack.

Evasion: On a successful Reflex saving throw, the character takes no damage against an area-effect attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save. Evasion may only be used if the character is wearing Light or no armor.

Unarmed Strike: A monk deals improved damage when making an unarmed attack, scaling according to his level. A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either of these weapon types. A monk is not susceptible to off-hand penalties when making unarmed attacks.

AC Bonus: When unarmored and unencumbered, a monk may add his Wisdom bonus (if positive) to his AC. This bonus also applies to Flat-Footed and Touch AC.

Immunity to Sleep: This is a half-elf racial characteristic.

Trapfinding

Equipment: Potion of Cure Light Wounds; Composite Shortbow (+1 Strength); Ring of Protection +1; masterwork thieves' tools; masterwork flute; silver earrings (25 gp); journal; 6 pouches of gold dust (50 gp each); 8 pouches of silver dust (5 gp each); 10 platinum pieces.

Notes
— Tsuto is accompanied by eight goblin warriors. He will flee if brought below 8 HP, or if all of the goblins are slain.
— Tsuto primarily relies on mobility in combat in order to flank PCs with his goblin allies.

And hoo-boy, here it goes:

GURPS Information

Spoiler:  

Tsuto Kaijitsu (315 Points)

SM: +0

ST: 11
DX: 12
IQ: 11
HT: 9

HP: 10
FP: 9

Will: 12
Per: 12

Basic Speed: 5.50
Basic Move: 6

Dodge: 11 [Can get +3 Retreating and +2 Acrobatic]

Advantages: Acute Vision 1, Combat Reflexes, Enhanced Dodge 1, Extended Lifespan 1, Night Vision 5, Resistant (+3) to Mind Control, Social Chameleon, Striking ST +1, Striker (Crushing, Arm), Trained By A Master

Perks: Iron Arms, Iron Hands (2), Special Exercises (Striking ST +1), Style Familiarity (Te Karate)

Disadvantages: Bully (12), Obsession (Short-Term: Destroy Sandpoint), Sense of Duty (Half-Sister, Ameiko), Sense of Duty (Nualia Tobyn), Social Stigma (Half-Breed Bastard)

Quirks: Distinctive Features (Half-Elf), Obsession (Nualia Tobyn), Proud

Skills: Acrobatics 13; Acting 13; Bow 14; Diplomacy 12; Disguise (TL 3) 11; Fast-Talk 12; Intimidation 13; Judo 15; Jumping 12; Karate 15; Kiai 11; Lockpicking/TL3 13*; Mental Strength 14; Musical Instrument (Flute) 14*; Parry Missile-Weapons 12; Pressure Points 14; Streetwise 12; Traps/TL3 12

Techniques: Counterattack (Karate) 15; Elbow Strike (Karate) 15; Exotic Hand Strike (Karate) 15; Hammer Fist (Karate) 15; Kicking (Karate) 15; Targeted Attack (Karate Kick/Vitals) 14; Targeted Attack (Karate Punch/Neck) 13

Attacks
Karate Punch [Skill 15, 1d+1 cr]
Karate Kick w/ Boots [Skill 15, 1d+3 cr]
Elbow Strike [Arm Striker — Skill 15, 1d+2 cr]
Bow [Skill 14, Acc 1, 1d+2 imp, Range 165/220, RoF 1, Shots 1(2), Bulk -7]

Equipment
Straight Composite Bow (Fine Quality)
Medium Leather High Boots (DR 2, DR 1 Impaling — Feet, Shins)
Quiver, 15 Arrows
Ring of Protection (+1)
Minor Healing Potion (1d HP)
Ordinary Clothing (Status 0)
Silver Earrings ($86 market value for the pair)
Lockpicks (Good Quality)
Flute (Good Quality)
Leather Belt Purse
10 Gold Crowns ($40 each)
6 pouches of gold dust ($200 each)
8 pouches of silver dust ($20 each)
Tsuto's Journal

Notes
* These figures include +1 Equipment Quality bonus.
— Tsuto, as any other character in the campaign world, is subject to the Harsh Realism for Unarmed Fighters rule. However, his Striker advantage and Iron X perks give him a bit more leeway than the average brawler.

Edit: I am actually not happy at all with how Tsuto is looking right now. I may completely overhaul him later tonight to no longer be an unarmed fighter. Possible modifications include switching to nunchaku, a staff, or dual-wielding sais, and will probably universally entail some improvements to his mediocre physical qualities.

[Landwalker]

And here is the rebuild! I rejiggered Tsuto to dual-wield sais and wear a bit of armor. I feel like he maintains his martial-artist feel without either being completely impotent or demanding an overly complicated build to make him viable. The sais also still let him have an unusual quality that makes him stand out — and Bind Weapon should give my axe-toting dwarf PC fits.

D20 Information

Spoiler:  

Tsuto Kaijitsu (Half-elf Rogue 1/Monk 2)

Size: Medium
Initiative: +2 (+2 Dex)
Speed: 30 ft.
Senses: Low-Light Vision; Listen +3, Spot +3

HP: 12 (1d6+2d8-3)
AC: 16 (Touch 16, Flat-Footed 13)
(+2 Dex, +1 Deflection, +2 Wis, +1 Dodge)

Fortitude: +2
Reflex: +7
Willpower: +5; +7 vs. enchantment

Strength: 12
Dexterity: 15
Constitution: 8
Intelligence: 13
Wisdom: 14
Charisma: 10

Base Attack: +1
Melee: Unarmed Strike +3 (1d6+1)
or Flurry of Blows +1/+1 (1d6+1)
Ranged: Composite Shortbow +3 (1d6+1/x3)

Feats: Deflect Arrows, Dodge, Stunning Fist, Weapon Finesse
Skills: Balance +4; Bluff +5, Diplomacy +8, Disable Device +6; Disguise +4 (+6 acting); Gather Information +6; Intimidate +6; Jump +3; Open Lock +6; Perform (Wind Instruments) +6; Search +5; Tumble +8

Other Abilities
Sneak Attack: Tsuto deals an extra +1d6 on a successful sneak attack.

Evasion: On a successful Reflex saving throw, the character takes no damage against an area-effect attack that normally deals half damage on a successful save. Evasion may only be used if the character is wearing Light or no armor.

Unarmed Strike: A monk deals improved damage when making an unarmed attack, scaling according to his level. A monk's unarmed strike is treated as both a manufactured weapon and a natural weapon for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve either of these weapon types. A monk is not susceptible to off-hand penalties when making unarmed attacks.

AC Bonus: When unarmored and unencumbered, a monk may add his Wisdom bonus (if positive) to his AC. This bonus also applies to Flat-Footed and Touch AC.

Immunity to Sleep: This is a half-elf racial characteristic.

Trapfinding

Equipment: Potion of Cure Light Wounds; Composite Shortbow (+1 Strength); Ring of Protection +1; masterwork thieves' tools; masterwork flute; silver earrings (25 gp); journal; 6 pouches of gold dust (50 gp each); 8 pouches of silver dust (5 gp each); 10 platinum pieces.

Notes
— Tsuto is accompanied by eight goblin warriors. He will flee if brought below 8 HP, or if all of the goblins are slain.
— Tsuto primarily relies on mobility in combat in order to flank PCs with his goblin allies.

GURPS Information

Spoiler:  

Tsuto Kaijitsu (224 Points)

SM: +0

ST: 12
DX: 12
IQ: 11
HT: 10

HP: 11
FP: 10

Will: 12
Per: 12

Basic Speed: 5.75
Basic Move: 6 (4 with Light encumbrance)

Dodge: 10 (9 with Light encumbrance; Retreating Acrobatic Dodge of 14)

Advantages: Acute Vision 1, Combat Reflexes, Enhanced Parry 2, Extended Lifespan 1, Night Vision 5, Resistant (+3) to Mind Control, Social Chameleon

Perks: Style Familiarity (Saijutsu)

Disadvantages: Bully (12), Obsession (Short-Term: Destroy Sandpoint), Sense of Duty (Half-Sister, Ameiko), Sense of Duty (Nualia Tobyn), Social Stigma (Half-Breed Bastard)

Quirks: Distinctive Features (Half-Elf), Obsession (Nualia Tobyn), Proud

Skills: Acrobatics 13; Acting 11; Bow 14; Carousing 11; Diplomacy 12; Disguise/TL3 11; Fast-Talk 12; Intimidation 12; Jitte/Sai 14; Jumping 12; Lockpicking/TL3 11; Musical Instrument (Flute) 11; Parry Missile-Weapons 12; Search 13; Streetwise 11; Traps/TL3

Techniques: Bind Weapon (Jitte/Sai) 14; Counterattack (Jitte/Sai) 12; Disarming (Jitte/Sai) 15; Dual-Weapon Attack (Jitte/Sai) 14; Off-Hand Weapon Training (Jitte/Sai) 14; Snap Weapon (Jitte/Sai) 14; Targeted Attack (Thrust/Armpit, Jitte/Sai) 10; Targeted Attack (Thrust/Vitals, Jitte/Sai) 13

Attacks
Sai (x2, Fine Quality) [Skill 14, 1d+2 cr / 1d imp, Parry 13, Reach 1]
Bow [Skill 14, Acc 1, 1d+2 imp, Range 165/220, RoF 1, Shots 1(2), Bulk -7]

Equipment
Straight Composite Bow (Fine Quality)
Sais x2 (Fine Quality)
Medium Leather High Boots (DR 2, DR 1 Impaling — Feet, Shins)
Light Silk Tunic (DR 3*, DR 2* vs. Crushing — Torso, Thighs, Shoulders, Upper Arms)
Light Silk Gloves (DR 3*, DR 2* vs. Crushing — Hands)
Quiver, 20 Arrows
Ring of Protection (+1)
Minor Healing Potion (1d HP)
Ordinary Clothing (Status 0)
Silver Earrings ($86 market value for the pair)
Lockpicks (Good Quality)
Flute (Good Quality)
Leather Belt Purse
10 Gold Crowns ($40 each)
6 pouches of gold dust ($200 each)
8 pouches of silver dust ($20 each)
Tsuto's Journal

Notes
* These figures include +1 Equipment Quality bonus.
— Saijutsu is a style I made up. Basically it's "whatever techniques I felt like giving to Tsuto."

[Dragondog]

Originally Posted by Kuroshima

Don't over-complicate things. DF8 gives you prices for rings of diverse materials. For example, a silver ring weights 0.15 lbs and costs $115. It's so light, that I would say that any damage destroys it, but it's so small, that hitting it should be almost impossible, unless you aim for it (calculate the SM).

Oh, and Deflect+1 is a good match for a +1 AC ring.

I don’t have DF8, so I didn’t know about that.

For Tsuto:
* I would have added Enhanced Dodge
* Some skills don't list skill level
* I would have given Acrobatics, Diplomacy, Intimidation, and Flute higher skill levels
* I would have added Research and Search

[Landwalker]

Originally Posted by Dragondog

For Tsuto:
* I would have added Enhanced Dodge
* Some skills don't list skill level
* I would have given Acrobatics, Diplomacy, Intimidation, and Flute higher skill levels
* I would have added Research and Search

— Fixed the accidental omission of Tsuto's Jitte/Sai level (which is 14) and Disguise/TL3 and Lockpicking/TL3 (which are both 11).
— Tsuto did originally have Enhanced Dodge when he was more "monkish," since parrying was out of the question. However, with the overhaul to sai-fighting instead, I dropped Enhanced Dodge and moved him over to Enhanced Parry. He's still no slacker in the Dodge department, though.
— Initially I took the position that Search in d20 isn't really the same as Search in GURPS. The former is "examine a room or wall or what have you for something of interest;" the latter is "Oppose Holdout and Smuggling," something of the "Airport-Security Skill." However, looking through everything again, I can't find a GURPS skill that explicitly corresponds to "D20 Search," so "GURPS Search" seems like as good a choice as any, unless someone knows differently. In the meantime, I've added Search 13 to Tsuto's sheet.
— D20 Gather Information is decidedly not GURPS Research. It's basically a combination of Carousing, Streetwise, and Savoir-Faire. Though he has no Savoir-Faire skills, Tsuto already has Social Chameleon and Streetwise. I've also added Carousing 11 to his skill list.

Other Edits:

— I've added a note about Tsuto's effective dodge.
— I've corrected the point value of his rebuild.
— I've added a note about Tsuto's "GM Whim" style.
— I corrected the damage line for Tsuto's sai attacks (was formerly 1d+2 imp, instead of 1d+2 cr / 1d-1 imp), and made the Sais Fine quality (+1 imp damage)