[D20 to GURPS] Burnt Offerings Conversions

[AmesJainchill]

...Why does the Goblin Dog have so many combat skills that require...hands?

[Landwalker]

Originally Posted by AmesJainchill

...Why does the Goblin Dog have so many combat skills that require...hands?

Ah, whoops! Good catch. I accidentally left in the Goblin Warchanter's skills instead of replacing them with the Goblin Dog's.

All fixed now.

I've also modified the Dog's advantages slightly with 2 levels of Silence to reflect its racial Stealth bonus.

[Captain-Captain]

D&D Combat Reflexes should translate to Extra Attack with a lot of restrictions.

[Landwalker]

Originally Posted by Captain-Captain

D&D Combat Reflexes should translate to Extra Attack with a lot of restrictions.

Attacks of Opportunity in general have no analog at all in GURPS—other than, indeed, "Extra Attack with a lot of restrictions." But since any d20 character can already make at least one GURPS-non-existent AoO (otherwise, every character would have an Extra Attack with a lot of restrictions), I don't feel the need to recognize any change for a character who can make multiple GURPS-non-existent AoOs.

I did consider just giving the Warchanter the GURPS version of Combat Reflexes (+1 Defenses, improved Fright resistance, better at resisting surprise), but I wasn't really sold.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Landwalker

Attacks of Opportunity in general have no analog at all in GURPS—other than, indeed, "Extra Attack with a lot of restrictions."

AoOs are only an artifact of the six second combat turn. GURPS with it's more discrete actions doesn't need anything of the sort.

A character with Combat Reflexes in D&D is just a character played with a good understanding of when to Wait in GURPS.

[Landwalker]

Doesn't look like the Dog is raising a lot of eyebrows, so I'll start moving on towards the Goblin Commando.

Before I roll out the full conversion, there's an equipment issue for the Commando that I need to determine


d20 Stats

Potion of Rage: The affected creature gains +2 Strength, +2 Dexterity, +1 the Willpower saves, and -2 to AC. The duration for a common potion is about 30 seconds.


There doesn't seem to be any single GURPS potion or spell effect that could cover all of this. There is the Berserker spell (M.134), but "All-Out Attack Every Round" is just a bit more severely penalizing than "-2 AC".

Obviously, I could just make up a potion with very specific effects (+1 ST, +1 DX, +1 Will, -2 to all defenses, 30 seconds), but before I take that way out, I'd like to see if there's some other way to go about it.

[Landwalker]

D20 Information

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Goblin Commando (Ranger 1)

Size: Small
Initiative: +3 (+3 Dex)
Speed: 30 feet
Senses: Darkvision 60 ft; Listen +5, Spot +5

HP: 9 (1d8+1)
AC: 17 (Touch 14, Flat-Footed 14)
(+3 Armor, Studded Leather; +3 Dex; +1 Size)
Fortitude: +3
Reflex: +5
Willpower: +1

Strength: 12
Dexterity: 17
Constitution: 13
Intelligence: 8
Wisdom: 12
Charisma: 8

Base Attack: +1
Melee: Masterwork Horsechopper* +2 (1d8+1/x3)
Ranged: Shortbow +5 (1d4/x3)
or Shortbow +1 (1d4/x3, mounted)

Feats: Mounted Combat, Track
Skills: Handle Animal +3, Listen +5, Move Silently +7, Ride +11, Spot +5, Survival +5

Special: Favored Enemy: Animal (+2); Wild Empathy (+0)

Other Equipment: Small Wooden Shield, Shortbow, 20 arrows, potion of rage


Notes

* A horsechopper is a Small-sized Halberd. Normal-quality ones are breakage prone, but Masterwork pieces do not have this problem.

— Commandos have managed to make strides in overcoming the typical Goblin phobia of dogs and horses. Due to their Favored Enemy,

they are almost always tasked with eliminating any dogs or horses that stand in the way of the Warriors.

— The Potion of Rage (which the commando may have already imbibed at the start of combat) gives +2 Strength, +2

Constitution, +1 Will Save, and -2 AC. Its effects last for five rounds (30 seconds).

— The Commando may be mounted on a Goblin Dog.

GURPS Information

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Goblin Commando (129 Points)

SM: -1

ST: 11
DX: 13
IQ: 9
HT: 11


HP: 13
FP: 11

Will: 10
Per: 11

Basic Speed: 6.00
Basic Move: 6

Advantages: Dark Vision, Enhanced Dodge 1, Higher Purpose: Defeat Dogs and Horses, Night Vision 9, Silence 2, Teeth (Sharp)

Perks: None

Disadvantages: Gluttony (12), Impulsiveness (12), Phobia: Domesticated Dogs and Horses (12), Pyromania (12), Short Lifespan

1, Social Stigma (Monster)

Quirks: Prone to singing disturbing tunes

Features: Oversized Head (+1 SM for purposes of biting, +1 to hit Skull and Face)

Skills: Acrobatics 12, Animal Handling (Dogs) 10, Bow 14, Brawling 14, Fast-Draw (Arrow) 13, Observation 11, Polearm 14,

Riding (Canine) 14, Stealth 16, Survival (Woodlands) 12, Tracking 11

Techniques: Cavalry Training (Polearm) 14, Combat Riding 15

Equipment
— Horsechopper [SM-1 Balanced Dueling Halberd] — Skill 15, 1d+4 cut / 1d+3 imp (may stick) / 1d+1 imp
— Regular Bow [SM-1] — Skill 14 (Skill 10 if Mounted), Acc 1*, 1d imp, Range 165/220, RoF 1, Shots 1(2), Bulk -7
— Bezainted Medium Leather Vest and Skirt (DR 3 Cutting, DR 2 Crushing, DR 1 Impaling — Covers Chest, Abdomen, Thighs)
— Medium Hardened Leather Bracers (DR 2 — Covers Forearms)
— Medium Leather Coif (DR 2, DR 1 Impaling — Covers Skull, Neck, Face [1/6])
— Quiver, 20 Arrows
— Potion of Rage (+1 ST, +1 DX, +1 Will, -2 Defenses — 30 Second Duration)†

Notes

— The Commando may be mounted on a Goblin Dog.

— Although the Commando's Phobia has a Control Rating of 15 (which is only a step above what I initially had for the Warriors and

Warchanters), I actually dialed up the phobia for those creatures to 6 to more accurately reflect the goblins' intense fear of

these creatures. Since the adventure also has an encounter that specifically hinges on a Goblin Commando's phobia of dogs, I felt

that eliminating the phobia altogether would be too generous. I'm actually considering giving the Commandos CR 12 for their phobia.

* I'm using the Harsh Realism for Ranged Weapons rules (LT.75)

† This was a custom-built potion that has no basis at all in any GURPS rules I could find. I am 100% open to other suggestions.

Among other things, I considered replacing this with a Potion of Strength or Potion of Battle (M.214). The main source of

consternation is that the d20 "Barbarian Rage" ability has no analog in GURPS, even in DF 1, so there's nothing to go on there.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Landwalker

consternation is that the d20 "Barbarian Rage" ability has no analog in GURPS, even in DF 1, so there's nothing to go on there.
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There is an analog, in DF11. It gives a big ST boost, at a huge ST cost, and requires the user to have the berserk disadvantage (but not to be berserking while using it).

I know I'm starting to sound repetitive, but DF 11 will help you design many of the iconic D&D abilities.

[Landwalker]

Alright, alright, you win. I bought the infernal thing. =P

I'm guessing that what you're referring to is the Great Rage ability for the Barbarian. Which does seem to be at least a step in the right direction even without capturing all of the elements, since it's really just a big (really big) ST burst.

Even so, I'm not sure how one would translate that into a potion, unless you just called it an advantage-granting potion, 20 CP = 500 Energy, ÷ 5 for single-use = 100 Energy, and then price it from there (even though potion-brewing doesn't really parallel the crafting of magic items, it doesn't seem too unreasonable to use the same pricing scheme as Quick & Dirty Enchantment, which would make such a potion around $100).

That's actually how I ended up putting together the potion above: 15 CP (+1 ST, +1 DX, +1 Will is collectively [+35], and I assigned an arbitrary [-20] to the -2 Defenses) = 375 Energy, ÷ 5 for single use, -5% For Reduced Duration (assuming 1-minute base duration) = 71 Energy. I'm not wildly satisfied with it, both because of the disconnect between the linear effect of modifiers in d20 vs. the bell-curve effect in GURPS and because it just seems like a very... crude way to put together a magical potion.

/Tangent and back to the Great Rage from DF 11, I suppose to make it a closer parallel to the D20 ability, one would move the FP cost to the end of the ability rather than the beginning. But that still leaves the rest of the effects at issue.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Landwalker

Alright, alright, you win. I bought the infernal thing. =P

I'm guessing that what you're referring to is the Great Rage ability for the Barbarian. Which does seem to be at least a step in the right direction even without capturing all of the elements, since it's really just a big (really big) ST burst.

Even so, I'm not sure how one would translate that into a potion, unless you just called it an advantage-granting potion, 20 CP = 500 Energy, ÷ 5 for single-use = 100 Energy, and then price it from there (even though potion-brewing doesn't really parallel the crafting of magic items, it doesn't seem too unreasonable to use the same pricing scheme as Quick & Dirty Enchantment, which would make such a potion around $100).

That's actually how I ended up putting together the potion above: 15 CP (+1 ST, +1 DX, +1 Will is collectively [+35], and I assigned an arbitrary [-20] to the -2 Defenses) = 375 Energy, ÷ 5 for single use, -5% For Reduced Duration (assuming 1-minute base duration) = 71 Energy. I'm not wildly satisfied with it, both because of the disconnect between the linear effect of modifiers in d20 vs. the bell-curve effect in GURPS and because it just seems like a very... crude way to put together a magical potion.

/Tangent and back to the Great Rage from DF 11, I suppose to make it a closer parallel to the D20 ability, one would move the FP cost to the end of the ability rather than the beginning. But that still leaves the rest of the effects at issue.

Now that you have it, look at the bard songs too, under bard powerups. ;)

As for moving the FP cost to the end of the effect, it would halve the limitation value, as per Aftermath (though not RAW, it's IMHO an acceptable extension)

EDIT: As for the potion, I would make it a combination Potion (It's Pure Chemistry, Pyramid #3/28, p. 7) of Battle and Strength potions. You might aff a quick to it, that it gives berserk, for a minor cost decrease.