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Old 07-25-2011, 11:23 PM   #1
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This weapon increases the effective ST of a telekinetic wielder. Multiply his TK level by [(Talent+3)/3], round up, and add this to his effective ST for all purposes.
It's a teeny bit complex, but you'd do the calculation ahead of time. So a person with PK Talent 1 would add (TK level * 1.33) to his ST, while someone with PK Talent 6 would add (TK level * 3) to his ST. That makes both aspects important.

Just a thought.
I'd suggest adding Basic Lift instead of ST, like in any other uses of combined ST, or combined TK.
BL addition works fine, but adding TK levels directly to ST levels will make things really screwy.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:02 AM   #2
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I'd suggest adding Basic Lift instead of ST, like in any other uses of combined ST, or combined TK.
BL addition works fine, but adding TK levels directly to ST levels will make things really screwy.
Really? could you please give me a specific example on how adding TK to ST for determining striking ST power would make things screwy? I can't see anyhing wrong with it.
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Old 07-26-2011, 09:58 AM   #3
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Adding to TK level means that it goes up nonlinearly - the more powerful the base TK, the more benefit (lifting power) they get out of it.

This may or may not be what you wanted :)
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Old 07-26-2011, 11:09 AM   #4
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Adding to TK level means that it goes up nonlinearly - the more powerful the base TK, the more benefit (lifting power) they get out of it.

This may or may not be what you wanted :)
Lifting power? I don't think that's what the OP had in mind when discussing the use of a staff weapon -- generally, weapons are all about striking power. My suggestion was that you'd add some multiplier of the wielder's TK to his ST for all purposes of using the staff as a weapon.

Trying to make this a function of BL seems unnecessarily complex and somewhat confusing -- how do you turn +X lbs. of BL into +Y damage?
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:00 PM   #5
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Lifting power? I don't think that's what the OP had in mind when discussing the use of a staff weapon -- generally, weapons are all about striking power. My suggestion was that you'd add some multiplier of the wielder's TK to his ST for all purposes of using the staff as a weapon.
I read it as wanting to use the Staff as a power conduit for his TK, which would be combining TK with ST for all types of feats, like jumping/vaulting as well as striking.

Afaik the standard way of combining STs, including TK STs, is by adding Basic Lifts together.

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Trying to make this a function of BL seems unnecessarily complex and somewhat confusing -- how do you turn +X lbs. of BL into +Y damage?
You don't, you turn +X lbs of BL into Y ST which has it's own corresponding damage, but you need that ST for all manners of staff stunts, from jumps to throwing, etc., not just strikes.

YMMV of course.
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:02 PM   #6
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Yes, I was thinking "Wielder holds the staff and uses it to enhance his TK powers, which he could use to lift space cruisers, throw around guards, etc without physically contacting them", not "Wielder uses the staff as a TK-held weapon and hits things very hard with it."
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Old 07-26-2011, 02:09 PM   #7
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Yes, I was thinking "Wielder holds the staff and uses it to enhance his TK powers, which he could use to lift space cruisers, throw around guards, etc without physically contacting them", not "Wielder uses the staff as a TK-held weapon and hits things very hard with it."
Even so, I'd envision enhancing TK powers by increasing BL, so 3x the TK ST when used through the staff would be being able to lift 1500 lbs, when before you could only lift 500 lbs, but I guess it's all in how big an effect you're going for.

Again, YMMV, and the OP's needs may be different, I just find that using BL gives me a better grasp on being able to say that 2x means being able to lift 2x as much, etc.
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