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Old 07-06-2011, 04:55 PM   #21
Acolyte
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
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Default Re: Imperfections: Human 'dissonance'

I like your backwards Impudites. Some might even see themselves as glorious benefactors.

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As for everything else: that's reliever/demonling work. Sure, a full celestial can waste their time doing that stuff, but they can't use their full abilities without blowing their cover!
Worse, from Heaven's perspective, most of it strengthens The Media, as it is all about humans being passive recievers of the Celestial message.

Now, PCs have a choice - waste their time doing stuff that any 7 Force underling can do, or permanently remove their opposing numbers. Every enemy they dispose of costs the other side millennia of work; every enemy subverted additionally gains millennia of work. Whether it means hitting a demon with EthAttraction and then CorpProjection into Notre Dame for a soul kill, or whacking an angel with enough Dissonance and Discord for a Fall, the real work doesn't involve humans at all.
You think that 9-Force celestials shouldn't be promoting their Superiors' Words day in and day out because that is a "waste" of "their time", instead focusing on the only "real work" of subverting or killing opposing celestials?

That, to me, rips out most of the great fun of IN, playing an otherworldly being enacting a mostly hidden agenda while looking at the foibles of humanity from an external perspective. Actual combat between opposing forces, epic dramatic fights with lots of Song and Essence use, do happen, but for most celestials that's not a daily or even monthly occurrence in my perception of IN. The IN rules aren't particularly set up for sensible fighting, either, emphasizing melee weapons over guns, lacking any sense of tactical movement, and not tying degree of success (CD) to skill.

Again I ask, why create new disadvantages for humans? You've made it clear that celestials interacting with humans isn't for PCs in your perception, since they should be squaring off against their opposite numbers, so why add more rules-weight with the goal of encouraging interaction with humans? The "real work" of celestials is fighting each other, not luring humans into Heaven or Hell, as you say, after all.
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