[DF] New Power-ups for Pyramid Magazine originated templates

[Carlos]

Greetings.

Pyramid Magazine 3/10 and 3/13 brought to us two new dungeon fantasy templates: Justiciar and Mystic Knight.

However, it seems that some players got a bit frustrated when they didn't see their new power-ups on DF 11. Ok, Kromm explained there reason for that. But I was wondering: What about a new Pyramid Magazine article with such new power-ups for these two templates, following the DF 11 premise? Perhaps even a new DF volume.

Am I the only to consider it a good idea?

[Kuroshima]

Patience Carlos. I already sent something related to this for the DF issue. I'm still waiting for Steven's repply on it though
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[Carlos]

Originally Posted by Kuroshima

Patience Carlos. I already sent something related to this for the DF issue. I'm still waiting for Steven's repply on it though
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Great! I really think it will be appreciated for a lot of DF fans.

Along with the new Mystic Knight Power, I think, IMHO, that they should have Extra Attack 1 [25], just like Holy Warriors in their Power-ups. I really missed that in their power-ups.

And I'm not sure if this is the right thread to mention that but I think that just like Holy Warriors, they should have Striking ST 2 in their template as options for then to spend their 51 extra points.

[Kromm]

The justiciar and mystic knight won't become supported elements of DF until we can find an excuse to publish them in a DF product. At that point, things like power-ups and general recognition in the series would become possibilities. At the moment, though, Pyramid content for DF is essentially "What if?" in character. That isn't out of some evil desire to exclude anyone or anything, but because sensible sales practices dictate that series actually look like series. In effect, DF and Pyramid are two different series.

The mystic knight has the additional issue of needing Power-Ups 1 to make sense, where policy for DF is not to require books other than the Basic Set and Magic. Whether we'll ever publish a cut-down version of the Imbuements rules under the DF aegis remains to be seen. If we do, then certainly, the mystic knight will be in it.

[LoneWolf23k]

You could use the Justiciar in an "Urban Adventures" supplement for Dungeon Fantasy adventures set in city locations.

[Kuroshima]

Originally Posted by Kromm

The justiciar and mystic knight won't become supported elements of DF until we can find an excuse to publish them in a DF product. At that point, things like power-ups and general recognition in the series would become possibilities. At the moment, though, Pyramid content for DF is essentially "What if?" in character. That isn't out of some evil desire to exclude anyone or anything, but because sensible sales practices dictate that series actually look like series. In effect, DF and Pyramid are two different series.

The mystic knight has the additional issue of needing Power-Ups 1 to make sense, where policy for DF is not to require books other than the Basic Set and Magic. Whether we'll ever publish a cut-down version of the Imbuements rules under the DF aegis remains to be seen. If we do, then certainly, the mystic knight will be in it.

and the fact that it needs both Power-Ups 1 and Perfect Defense from Pyramid #3/4: Magic on the Battlefield (at least for most archetypes) was the reason I hesitated before submitting it to Pyramid in the first place.

[Carlos]

Originally Posted by Kromm

The justiciar and mystic knight won't become supported elements of DF until we can find an excuse to publish them in a DF product. At that point, things like power-ups and general recognition in the series would become possibilities. At the moment, though, Pyramid content for DF is essentially "What if?" in character. That isn't out of some evil desire to exclude anyone or anything, but because sensible sales practices dictate that series actually look like series. In effect, DF and Pyramid are two different series.

The mystic knight has the additional issue of needing Power-Ups 1 to make sense, where policy for DF is not to require books other than the Basic Set and Magic. Whether we'll ever publish a cut-down version of the Imbuements rules under the DF aegis remains to be seen. If we do, then certainly, the mystic knight will be in it.

I see. Thanks for make it clear.

Well... Since Mystic Knight and Justiciar came both from Pyramid Magazine, what are the chances of a Pyramid article (instead of a full DF book) with their new power-ups (in the same spirit of DF 11) to be published? Can we have any hope on that?

[Carlos]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf23k

You could use the Justiciar in an "Urban Adventures" supplement for Dungeon Fantasy adventures set in city locations.

It looks like a good idea!

Originally Posted by Kuroshima

and the fact that it needs both Power-Ups 1 and Perfect Defense from Pyramid #3/4: Magic on the Battlefield (at least for most archetypes) was the reason I hesitated before submitting it to Pyramid in the first place.

And you've done a great job! I just loved the Mystic Knight, specially because they fit the "Warrior with magic" archetype that always looked undoable. And I'm sure that many others have enjoyed your work.