Dodging Difficulty

[Ze'Manel Cunha]

Originally Posted by benz72

So I'm walking to dinner tonight and I think to myself... hmmm... are all attacks equally tough to dodge?

The issue would soon become one of playability.

Take a simple reach 2 weapon, a swing coming in at an angle can often be dodged or side-stepped, on the other hand, a long center mass sweeping horizontal swing, which is easily blocked/parried, is impossible to dodge/step out of the way of, unless you dive/drop, or go all matrix acrobatic like.

Or take a stream of fire sweeping across horizontally at center mass height, other than dive/drop, or matrix acrobatics, no dodge should ever work.

[benz72]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

The issue would soon become one of playability.

Take a simple reach 2 weapon, a swing coming in at an angle can often be dodged or side-stepped, on the other hand, a long center mass sweeping horizontal swing, which is easily blocked/parried, is impossible to dodge/step out of the way of, unless you dive/drop, or go all matrix acrobatic like.

Or take a stream of fire sweeping across horizontally at center mass height, other than dive/drop, or matrix acrobatics, no dodge should ever work.

Those are very good points, and if a GM were to say 'you cannot dodge that swing without droping prone... what do you do?' I wouldn't have an issue. What I wanted to suss out was if there was a RAW or houserule or general incluination that would allow some attacks to be dodges more or less easily than the standard MV+3 assumption.
It appears that there may be.
Need to go look at predictive attack. Anyone happen to know what page it's on?

[Crakkerjakk]

Originally Posted by benz72

Need to go look at predictive attack. Anyone happen to know what page it's on?

It's basically just deceptive attack, but it only works v. dodge.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by benz72

What I wanted to suss out was if there was a RAW or houserule or general incluination that would allow some attacks to be dodges more or less easily than the standard MV+3 assumption.

What about the Dodge vs. Firearms optional rule from Martial Arts/Tactical Shooting?

[Crakkerjakk]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

What about the Dodge vs. Firearms optional rule from Martial Arts/Tactical Shooting?

I don't like the fact that it's only v. one shooter personally. I don't see how "moving evasively" shouldn't work against anyone in the same general direction as the shooter you're trying to dodge.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Crakkerjakk

I don't like the fact that it's only v. one shooter personally. I don't see how "moving evasively" shouldn't work against anyone in the same general direction as the shooter you're trying to dodge.

As I've suggested before, I don't see any reason not to either treat every firing element as a single shooter, allow you to dodge multiple shooters but with Situational Awareness penalties, or both.

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Ze'Manel Cunha

Take a simple reach 2 weapon, a swing coming in at an angle can often be dodged or side-stepped, on the other hand, a long center mass sweeping horizontal swing, which is easily blocked/parried, is impossible to dodge/step out of the way of, unless you dive/drop, or go all matrix acrobatic like.

Or take a stream of fire sweeping across horizontally at center mass height, other than dive/drop, or matrix acrobatics, no dodge should ever work.

Well, that's certainly not true, since you could have a shield and succeed by less than the DB.