Why keep Wizard in deck if I got Ranger?

[Reinn]

Hi all:

I am new to this game but I love it. I started playing it since last weekend and now I've already got all the booster packs available in my local game store.

As soon as I opened the booster pack 5 where I found the Ranger class, I cannot help but wondering now that a Ranger can tamper a monster to be his/her steep and use it against new monsters, what would then be the reason of keeping the Wizard as one of the classes in my deck? I cannot find direct reference from the manuals in box, so please correct if I am wrong:

- That a Wizard can utilize his/her charm spell, discard all of his/her hand (minumum 3) to "cast away" the monster. All right, then will he/she still be able to get the Treasures?

- That a Ranger can tamper the monster by matching its number of Treasures with that many discarded cards, and then obtain the control of that monster to use it as a steed of power X, X be the number of discarded cards. That's fine, will he/she still get the loot?

If neither or both would get the loot, then from my perspective the Ranger is "owerpowered" Wizard in this case.

Unfortunately I cannot obatain booster pack 3 which contains the Gnome race and the Bard class. Therefore what I've got are:

Races (5) : Human, Elf, Dwarf, Halfling, Orc

Classes (5) : Warrior, Wizard, Ranger, Thief, Cleric

As we are gonna have another play this weekend and the local gamestore couldn't really get anything ordered in a week (from the States to Australia), I'd like to know if there is a proper class to replace the Wizard which gives a bit of variety in its class skills and game-playing strategy? Would the Monk class from Munchkin Fu do? Where could I have the Gnome race if I don't have booster pack 3?

Thanks for the help in advance.

[Brf]

The Wizard gets the loot. The Ranger does not.

[Melzektis]

Wizard also have a ability to flee monsters that cannot be overlooked.

beside if you are lucky enough to be both Wizard and Ranger you can tame a monster and then charm a second one if you have enough cards in your hand; this combo saved my life more than once.

[Morfeatire]

I guess the only other place you can get gnomes (monochromatic versions) would be the GUAL set.
But that wouldn't be a wise choice as this set is only meant to update older sets and I suppose yours are all new.

There's another thing to consider other than relevancy of the class, and its the balance between number of cards x classes/races so, I wouldn't remove any of them unless they really don't go well with your group.

one last thing... don't underestimate the wizard.

[MunchkinMan]

Originally Posted by Reinn

- That a Wizard can utilize his/her charm spell, discard all of his/her hand (minumum 3) to "cast away" the monster. All right, then will he/she still be able to get the Treasures?

The rules won't cover this because the Wizard card directly says: "Discard the Monster and take its Treasure, but don’t gain levels." However, what the rules do cover is that you can not take that Treasure if other Monsters remain and you can not defeat them. Also, if the Wizard has a helper, or is a helper, they don't get the Treasure directly. That Treasure is still divvied up as per the original agreement.

- That a Ranger can tamper the monster by matching its number of Treasures with that many discarded cards, and then obtain the control of that monster to use it as a steed of power X, X be the number of discarded cards. That's fine, will he/she still get the loot?

No, the Ranger won't get the Treasure, since the Ranger card doesn't grant Treasure when that ability is used.

Originally Posted by Melzektis

Wizard also have a ability to flee monsters that cannot be overlooked.

beside if you are lucky enough to be both Wizard and Ranger you can tame a monster and then charm a second one if you have enough cards in your hand; this combo saved my life more than once.

Important note: The Wizard's ability to charm a Monster requires discarding your entire hand, however the Ranger's ability to make a Monster a Steed does not require hand cards; a Ranger can discard in-play cards, as well. The same can be said for the Wizard's flight spell. . .