Some Focused Defense questions for playtesters

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by cmdicely

if you want to stop someone outside of C range from closing to C, you either smack them with your weapon and hurt them so they can't attack/grapple you effectively if they close, or if they are out of reach of your weapon, you Wait (possibly a Stop Thrust) and smack them on the way in. Being able to defend at reach C as if you were at Range 1 on the turn they move in doesn't seem to serve a real need.

The point of the clarification is with out it you NEVER given the opptunity to smack them them before the step in.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

The point of the clarification is with out it you NEVER given the opptunity to smack them them before the step in.

Sure you do. Just do a Wait like in other similar situations.

[roguebfl]

Originally Posted by vicky_molokh

Sure you do. Just do a Wait like in other similar situations.

Which Utterly fails the reality test. stepping in CC you almost open yourself to such counters, not until you successfully there that you gain the CC advantage again reach 1 weapons, it just very hard to get there unharmed.

[vicky_molokh]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

Which Utterly fails the reality test. stepping in CC you almost open yourself to such counters, not until you successfully there that you gain the CC advantage again reach 1 weapons, it just very hard to get there unharmed.

Why? In reality, long-reach people usually are waiting for the unarmed person to approach. This smells of Attack of Opportunity too much, where people abstract typical wait tactics into free attacks.

[cmdicely]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

Which Utterly fails the reality test.

No, it doesn't.

stepping in CC you almost open yourself to such counters

Not merely "almost", you do open yourself up to attacks moving into CC. But preparing to offensively exploit a special opening produced by an action that an enemy might take on their turn is one of the things that a GURPS Wait is for.

not until you successfully there that you gain the CC advantage again reach 1 weapons

Right, and the rules change that lets you defend as if it range 1 on the turn on which someone has moved into CC means that the person moving into CC doesn't even get that advantage once they have moved in.

[cmdicely]

Originally Posted by roguebfl

The point of the clarification is with out it you NEVER given the opptunity to smack them them before the step in.

Sure you are. You just Wait. Heck, the Stop Thrust version of Wait in the Basic Set is exactly and specifically a special tool for getting people as they come in with a thrusting weapon (the general version of Wait, though, works with any weapon.)

Further, the clarification can't exist for that reason because the clarification never helps you hit somebody on the way in, it only helps you defend against them once they've already stepped in.