Battlesuits for smaller users...

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

It doesnt say it reduces bonuses anywhere, so my assumption (which could be wrong) is that it *doesnt* and therefore a SM-(whatever) gives the same bonuses as a SM 0 (which doesn't make sense to me).

A battle suit for a dwarf or a giant would be a totally different piece of hardware.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

A battle suit for a dwarf or a giant would be a totally different piece of hardware.

Yes, I get that. The problem I am having conceptualizing is the ST 3 SM-4 with a Battlesuit getting a +10 to Lifting and Striking ST and 150 DR...its smaller so shouldn't the bonuses it gives be reduced...somehow?

Ghostdancer

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Yes, I get that. The problem I am having conceptualizing is the ST 3 SM-4 with a Battlesuit getting a +10 to Lifting and Striking ST and 150 DR...its smaller so shouldn't the bonuses it gives be reduced...somehow?

Ghostdancer

Quite possibly it should, since bulk concerns would be a major problem if you're putting a few inch thickness of powered armor around something the size of a housecat.

I don't think UT says anything whatsoever about scaling power armor. This doesn't mean that scaled power armor should be exactly the same, it means that UT doesn't say how to spec out larger or smaller armors.

[fictionfan]

watch out for the high-tech combat ready super pixes

[robkelk]

Originally Posted by fictionfan

watch out for the high-tech combat ready super pixes

I played a pixie character with a giant robot in a BESM game, once. "Giant robot" is relative, of course - it was about 5'5" tall, and had a glamour to appear human.

Anybody have any ideas on how to stat that in GURPS?

[Ulzgoroth]

Originally Posted by robkelk

I played a pixie character with a giant robot in a BESM game, once. "Giant robot" is relative, of course - it was about 5'5" tall, and had a glamour to appear human.

Anybody have any ideas on how to stat that in GURPS?

My suggestion would be to stat it as a case of Possession. That'll give the most fair costs (the mecha will probably be your 'primary' body at full costs, with your actual pixie body paid for as a cheap ally). The possession advantage itself would be very cheap...maybe start with Biological (its mechanics are fairly close) and knock off more by restricting it to only your robot body, probably hitting the -80% cap.

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Yes, I get that. T

No, you don't. I'm saying that we don't have any stats for SM -1 or SM +10 battlesuits. At all. The stats for suits for SM 0 pilots that we have don't apply to anyone who isn't SM 0.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

No, you don't. I'm saying that we don't have any stats for SM -1 or SM +10 battlesuits. At all. The stats for suits for SM 0 pilots that we have don't apply to anyone who isn't SM 0.

Maybe there is a failure to communicate here. What I am saying is that when using the Adjusting for SM rules found on p. 16 of GURPS Ultra-Tech a Commando Battlesuit (p. 183) sized for someone who is SM-1 gets a +15 bonus to Lifting and Striking ST. This is the same for someone with a Commando Battlesuit sized for someone who is SM 0.

Ghostdancer

[David Johnston2]

Originally Posted by Ghostdancer

Maybe there is a failure to communicate here. What I am saying is that when using the Adjusting for SM rules found on p. 16 of GURPS Ultra-Tech a Commando Battlesuit (p. 183) sized for someone who is SM-1 gets a +15 bonus to Lifting and Striking ST. This is the same for someone with a Commando Battlesuit sized for someone who is SM 0.

Ghostdancer

You are only supposed to use those for things where it is noted "adjust for SM". There is no such notation for battlesuits.

[Christopher R. Rice]

Originally Posted by David Johnston2

You are only supposed to use those for things where it is noted "adjust for SM". There is no such notation for battlesuits.

Battlesuits are armor, it only makes sense that armor is adjust for SM, otherwise no race with a SM greater than 0 would pay for the adjustment. Similarly I would think that it would be a crock for races with a SM less than 0, they would be paying for equipment that is bigger than them...

Ghostdancer