Kneepads of Allure in 19th printing

Gryphon · 01-23-2011, 11:09 AM

Hello! I need a qualification about Brand New Kneepades of Allure.
Exactly, players of what levels can I drag to combat by this Kneepads?

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Originally Posted by Card text

No player with a Level higher than yours can refuse your request for help against a monster.

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Originally Posted by 2010 Munchkin Change Log

Cannot be used on lower-Level players

So the card itself says I can't use it on players with level that equal to mine.
Change Log says I can.
So which of that I should believe?

StaticHamster · 01-23-2011, 11:31 AM

Since in combat having an equal strength to your opponent means you are losing I am inclined to extend that logic here.

I would say that the Kneepads do not work on players of equal level to you.

Munchykin · 01-23-2011, 11:36 AM

I'm pretty sure you use the cards to actually play the game and the rules themselves say that the cards overrule the rules so I imagine that would apply to something as outside the rules as the changelog.

Gryphon · 01-23-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Munchykin

I'm pretty sure you use the cards to actually play the game and the rules themselves say that the cards overrule the rules so I imagine that would apply to something as outside the rules as the changelog.

Maybe that's it. But I need an official answer anyway. Also I think that source with incorrect info (either card or change log) must be fixed.

StaticHamster · 01-23-2011, 12:16 PM

I don't see either as incorrect. They seem to be saying the same thing just in different words.

Equal is not lower than your level.

Of course the card is the re-print from the change log so that should overrule the change log.

Gryphon · 01-23-2011, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by StaticHamster

I don't see either as incorrect. They seem to be saying the same thing just in different words.

Well...
1. Card: Equal level is not higher than yours. So players of equal level can refuse your request for help. So you can't use Kneepads on them.
2. Change Log: Equal level is not lower than yours. So you can use Kneepads on them.

I don't see the way to consider both is correct in the same time.

morleydotes · 01-23-2011, 03:12 PM

NFL playoff today folks. Give Andrew and Erik some time to watch football and then get back to their computers.

Pat

Andrew Hackard · 01-23-2011, 03:49 PM

This one is easy. The card is correct; the Change Log is sloppily worded.

Gryphon · 01-23-2011, 04:05 PM

Thanks, Andrew!
So... Do you guys gonna fix wording in the log? Not all players (or even event organizators) has new edition or GUAL)

Andrew Hackard · 01-23-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gryphon

So... Do you guys gonna fix wording in the log? Not all players (or even event organizators) has new edition or GUAL)

We'll get to it when we can. Right now, getting games off to the printer is a higher priority.

01-23-2011, 11:31 AM	#2
StaticHamster Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: Kneepads of Allure in 19th printing Since in combat having an equal strength to your opponent means you are losing I am inclined to extend that logic here. I would say that the Kneepads do not work on players of equal level to you. __________________ I am nothing but a figment of my own imagination

01-23-2011, 11:36 AM	#3
Munchykin Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Lawrence, MA	Re: Kneepads of Allure in 19th printing I'm pretty sure you use the cards to actually play the game and the rules themselves say that the cards overrule the rules so I imagine that would apply to something as outside the rules as the changelog.

01-23-2011, 12:16 PM	#5
StaticHamster Join Date: Feb 2008	Re: Kneepads of Allure in 19th printing I don't see either as incorrect. They seem to be saying the same thing just in different words. Equal is not lower than your level. Of course the card is the re-print from the change log so that should overrule the change log. __________________ I am nothing but a figment of my own imagination

01-23-2011, 03:12 PM	#7
morleydotes Moderator Emeritus Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Salem, OR.	Re: Kneepads of Allure in 19th printing NFL playoff today folks. Give Andrew and Erik some time to watch football and then get back to their computers. Pat __________________ Salem Midnight Crew / MIB 1987 Or the Wrong MIB. Salem Cell leader, for the clueless in Oregon. Ahhhh... I see the Screw-Up Fairy has visited us again. Closed Captioned for the Humor Impaired

01-23-2011, 03:49 PM	#8
Andrew Hackard *Munchkin* Line Editor Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Austin, TX	Re: Kneepads of Allure in 19th printing This one is easy. The card is correct; the Change Log is sloppily worded. __________________ Andrew Hackard, *Munchkin* Line Editor If you have a question that isn't getting answered, we have a thread for that. Let people like what they like. Don't be a gamer hater. #PlayMunchkin on social media: Twitter \|\| Facebook \|\| Instagram \|\| YouTube Follow us on Kickstarter: Steve Jackson Games and Warehouse 23

01-23-2011, 04:05 PM	#9
Gryphon MIB Join Date: May 2009 Location: Moscow, Russia	Re: Kneepads of Allure in 19th printing Thanks, Andrew! So... Do you guys gonna fix wording in the log? Not all players (or even event organizators) has new edition or GUAL) __________________ IMHO SJG MIB # 2810