[LT/LTC2] Please Check My Armor Loadout

[Stripe]

Originally Posted by Landwalker

Well, nobody else has taken the bait, so I don't see why I can't do it now that I'm home and have my books. Let's break it down:

Man, let me thank you right now. It's hard to get a hand with something as tedious as re-working math.

Originally Posted by Landwalker

Not that I imagine the skeleton much cares. ;)[/indent]

No, but a player who loots it and tries to sell it will. Also, I'm sure he won't be so happy you re-figured it's cost. ;)

Originally Posted by Landwalker

Final stats are $200, 5.25 lbs, DR 2/12.[/indent]

Thanks, man! I really appreciate it. Don't even try to figure out where any of my numbers come from; they're just always wrong. Always. I take so much time to do them, but it never helps

Originally Posted by Landwalker

** Cheap Horn Bascinet, Padded, with Nasal

No -- "cheap horned bascinet."

I think I accidentally took the "final" cost and weight from the example helmet under Pot-Helm and then changed my mind and went with bascinet but forgot to change the numbers.

Either that, or I failed somewhere along the lines when adding the cheap quality (-1 DR. -0.6 CF), nasal, and horns. The rules for horns on page 113 say they add $20 and 1 lb.

Originally Posted by Landwalker

I see that you're making the call that LT's claim that the coif extension protects "the upper chest and shoulders" to actually include the Shoulders, even though the only hit location actually noted is #9. I have no problem with this interpretation.

I didn't know I was making a call there. XD

The book seems to switch between using the name of a location and the numerical designation arbitrarily throughout the armor section, so I took it as just another example of that. It literally says the coif protects the shoulders, so I would think it would.

I would rather the book give the name of the location with the numerical designation in parenthesis each and every time.

Originally Posted by Landwalker

** Again, I'm not sure where the cost is coming from. I ended up with $216.00 ($1200 x 0.4 [Cheap] x 0.45 [Extended Coif]). The weight looks good to me, though.[/indent]

Thanks, man. You're a big help.

Originally Posted by Landwalker

Rather Late Edit: Just to make a comment that has nothing to do with the equipment, I think this skeleton is going to be more than a low-level threat for a solo adventurer. Retreating Dodge 14? Yikes.

You're probably right, but it will be the only threat in the room. The high defense will mean the player can't simply attack, attack, attack. He's going to have to use deceptive attacks and feints or other tactics. But, the skeleton hasn't been through my pre-play test so he may very well be too powerful.

The canonical skeleton from Magic has a retreating dodge of only one point lower, but I upped my skeleton warrior's HT from 10 to 12which, in turn, raised his speed/move/dodge. The skeleton template in Magic doesn't have a modifier to HT.

[Landwalker]

Originally Posted by Stripe

The book seems to switch between using the name of a location and the numerical designation arbitrarily throughout the armor section, so I took it as just another example of that. It literally says the coif protects the shoulders, so I would think it would.

I would rather the book give the name of the location with the numerical designation in parenthesis each and every time.

Definitely agree. I'm sure there are minor space considerations, but it would be a nice little convenience to have (especially when people start asking about the back of the face, which happened recently).

And I'm quite happy to help—I love putting together armor loadouts. I just hope I didn't go off the deep end with anything on you there.

Hopefully your player's defenses will be up to the task of handling the skeleton's attacks, or that his DR will be able to pick up the slack. Fortunately that falchion doesn't do too much damage, so if he's anything like a DF-swordsman should be (i.e. a whirling dervish of steel death), he'll probably come out of it okay. ;)

[DanHoward]

A lot of the Low-Tech hit locations do not have an associated number; shoulders is one of them. Others include groin, upper arms, elbows, forearms, thighs, knees, and shins. They are a subset of a larger location and you'll need to roll a second time if you want to determine exactly where the attack hit.

A standard coif only protects the neck. You'll need to extend it like the rules state if you want additional protection. If the arm is hit then a second roll of 6 means that the shoulder is hit and that the coif's DR gets in the way.

I'd like to know an alternative name for the Face (area 5) if people have suggestions. Head and Skull are already used.

[sir_pudding]

Originally Posted by Stripe

The rules for horns on page 113 say they add $20 and 1 lb.

You might want to consider the rules in Fantasy Tech instead.

[DanHoward]

Depends on what the horns are made from. At least some Greek horned helmets were made from lead. I've seen one pair that was dug up from a grave shaft at Mycenae.

[Stripe]

Originally Posted by sir_pudding

You might want to consider the rules in Fantasy Tech instead.

Ah, yes. Thanks.

Originally Posted by DanHoward

Depends on what the horns are made from. At least some Greek horned helmets were made from lead. I've seen one pair that was dug up from a grave shaft at Mycenae.

So, the ones in LT are made of lead?

[DanHoward]

No they are an abstraction just like plumes and crests and all other helmet decorations. 1 lb is a decent averge weight for these things. What is the point of a whole list of different decorations that all cost and weigh different amounts yet have the exactly same game effect?