GURPS: Dwarf Fortress

[The Whiner Knight]

Kuu, I think perhaps your template needs an optional lens called "Cave Adaptation" that accounts for dorfs who get physically, violently (hilariously) sick when they venture into the sunlight.

For simulation-verisimilitude, I might suggest some combination of Numb and a really low Perception score to represent the fact that they just don't care that they're on fire, and they believe they'll go have a beer straight from the tap....

Originally Posted by makke

It's kind of an interesting idea to mix DF with Gurps... I don't have the first idea where to start or to end...

Seven dwarfs, standing around a wagon in some godsforsaken wilderness miles from civilization, and wondering whether they should have made sure they knew what was in the wagon before they set off.

Originally Posted by makke

Meaning what would be the goal of that?

Fun. Loads and loads of fun.

Originally Posted by makke

In short: Yes, I would be interested in such a pdf. I would certainly download and read it. :)

Oh, boy, I don't know if a .pdf is a feasible thing or not. For an official, sold-at-e23 pdf, there would have to be license negotiations. And an unofficial pdf depends on how generous Toady and/or Bay 12 Games is feeling from day to day.

[Hastur]

Here is a sample game of how I did it. my players didnt know they were playing gurps and there were very few hints.

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=58546.0

It is very easy to Gm (creatively and prep time-wise) because the players are in charge and you react to them

[Darekun]

Originally Posted by Nogford

Both GURPS and Dwarf Fortress have a number of things in common; an emphasis on detail and appeal to simulationists, lethal combat, scenarios where seemingly mundane skills (e.g. Weaving) could conceivably make a big difference.

Also, they seem to have a nice overlap in fan base :J

Originally Posted by Nogford

What are your thoughts on adapting Dwarf Fortress to GURPS?

I've tried this a few times; my current GURPS group is mainly also DF players, but they seem to lose interest around chargen time. This is one of the problems with adapting "god games" to RPGs: the PCs aren't the gods of the game, they're ordinary proles. And DF doesn't engender much empathy for the average dwarf.

I still have some stuff from my last attempt here, which isn't pure GURPS, but you may find it useful.

Originally Posted by Nogford

Would you be interested in seeing a small, unofficial PDF on the subject?

Heck yeah :J

Originally Posted by Starship

How would you model Dorfs reliance on alcohol?

I assumed the average dwarf is actually alcoholic; the effects we observe are a result of morale. Everyone is fully alcohol-tolerant because of its use in water sterilization. The actual interactions with the happiness system are more complex, but once you're hewing that close to the actual interactions you might as well just use the computerized engine anyway :J

[Tyneras]

The only thing that turns me off of Dwarf Fortress is the graphics, or lack of them. It's funny, I used to play all text MUDs back in the day, but I can't seem to get back into that mindset anymore. I love the detail I read about in DF, so a GURPS Dwarf Fortress would be a must have for me.

[Crakkerjakk]

Originally Posted by Tyneras

The only thing that turns me off of Dwarf Fortress is the graphics, or lack of them. It's funny, I used to play all text MUDs back in the day, but I can't seem to get back into that mindset anymore. I love the detail I read about in DF, so a GURPS Dwarf Fortress would be a must have for me.

Check this version out. Updated tileset with prettier graphics.

[Starship]

Perhaps Agrizoophobia (fear of wild animals)? Military Dorfs can trade it out for Duty?

[Peter Knutsen]

Originally Posted by Crakkerjakk

Check this version out. Updated tileset with prettier graphics.

I've never been able to play ASCII-graphical games. I'm fine with text games, as long as they aren't about spatial movement. I played a little LARN and Moria on the Amiga, with graphical tile sets, and some Angband and Zangband on Windows, but just letters on the screen, moving around, doesn't work for me. I've never been able to play ADOM, for instance.

But I'll check this out. Dwarf Fortress has always sounded fascinating to me. (I guess it's a problem if the programmer hasn't separated the game engine from the display engine, like I believe is done in Angband and many other rogulikes, making it possible to make graphical front-ends, such as the old and no longer supported TK front-end for Angband, Zangband and maybe a few others.)

[Flameblade]

I think the best way to approach any roleplayed game of Dwarf Fortress is to look at it like a Dungeon Fantasy-esque version of Paranoia. Your character *will* die for something stupid.

[Bruno]

Originally Posted by Peter Knutsen

But I'll check this out. Dwarf Fortress has always sounded fascinating to me. (I guess it's a problem if the programmer hasn't separated the game engine from the display engine, like I believe is done in Angband and many other rogulikes, making it possible to make graphical front-ends, such as the old and no longer supported TK front-end for Angband, Zangband and maybe a few others.)

Crackerjack's link is to a graphical tileset, just like Angband and Zangband (and ADOM and various other roguelikes) have these days. I have no idea if they've all nicked the code from each other or just the concept, but I'm thrilled. Asciimation makes my brain go TILT - it hits all my neurological problems at once.

[Tyneras]

Having finished the Let's Play of Dwarf Fortress, each player having a few mandatory disadvantages would keep the theme of mentally unstable dwarves getting killed for stupid reasons going.

On The Edge (Mitigator: X) the exact mitigator would vary from dwarf to dwarf, likely related to your job.

Obsession (Your Job)

not sure if Alcoholism or Bad Temper (mitigator: Alcohol) would be better. The dwraves never seemed to get falling-over drunk.